Acceleration of a cotton reel

Two forces of 100 N 100N and 20 N 20N act on a cotton reel of inner radius 5 m 5 \text{ m} and outer radius 10 m 10 \text{ m} as shown in the figure above. The reel is performing pure rolling motion. The surface produces sufficient necessary friction for pure rolling of the reel. Find the linear acceleration of the reel (in m/s 2 \text{ m/s}^2 ).

Details and Assumptions

  • The mass of the cotton reel is 10 kg 10 \text{ kg} .

  • The moment of inertia of the reel about central axis is 1000 kg m 2 1000 \text{ kg m}^2 .


The problem is original.


The answer is 0.5.

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2 solutions

Arjen Vreugdenhil
Nov 19, 2015

Basic equations: F f + F 1 F 2 = m a , R F f R F 1 r F 2 = I α . F_f + F_1 - F_2 = ma, \\ RF_f - RF_1 - rF_2 = I\alpha. (I choose to the right = positive, clockwise = positive.)

Divide last equation by R R , subtract from first, and use that for rolling, α = a / R \alpha = -a/R : 2 F 1 R r R F 2 = m a I R α = ( m + I R 2 ) a ; 2F_1 - \frac{R-r}R F_2 = ma - \frac IR \alpha = \left(m+\frac I{R^2}\right) a; substitute known values, a = 2 F 1 ( R r ) / R F 2 m + I / R 2 = 2 20 0.5 100 10 + 1000 / 1 0 2 = 10 20 = 0.5 m/s 2 . a = \frac{2F_1 - (R-r)/R\ F_2}{m+I/R^2} = \frac{2\cdot 20 - 0.5\cdot 100}{10+1000/10^2} = \frac{-10}{20} = -\boxed{0.5}\ \text{m/s}^2.

Sir if u take right positive then disc obviously rotates in clockwise direction. Then how u can take this positive in counterclockwise. Please state where am I wrong.

Shyambhu Mukherjee - 5 years, 5 months ago

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Correction made. Thank!

Arjen Vreugdenhil - 5 years, 5 months ago

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OK . actually I got myself confused but ur solution helped to understand.thanks.

Shyambhu Mukherjee - 5 years, 5 months ago
Rohit Ner
Nov 18, 2015

The sense of rotation of the reel would be clockwise. Let f f be the frictional force, a a be the linear acceleration and α \alpha be the angular acceleration of the reel.
Equation of translational equilibrium :
20 + f 100 = 10 a 20+f-100=10a .
Since the body is in pure rolling motion,
a = 10 α f 80 = 100 α a=10\alpha\\f-80=100\alpha Equation of rotational equilibrium :
200 10 f + 500 = 1000 α 200-10f+500=1000\alpha .
f = 75 N f=75N .
Substituting this value in the first equstion, we get acceleration as.
a = 0.5 m / s 2 \huge\color{#3D99F6}{\boxed{a=-0.5m/{s}^2}} .
which implies the actual sense of rotation would be counterclockwise.



rotation is counter clockwise and not clockwise.

Surya Prakash - 5 years, 6 months ago

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yes he has written wrong and that is what i was pointing to.

Sandeep Sharma - 5 years, 6 months ago

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I hope my solution is clear now.

Rohit Ner - 5 years, 6 months ago

Yeah it was a typo, thank you for mentioning.

Rohit Ner - 5 years, 6 months ago

One can use the fixed point approach too. I mean by just shifting the center of rotation from cm to touching point.

Kartik Sharma - 5 years, 6 months ago

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I always prefer taking moment about the point where the inertia is given.

Rohit Ner - 5 years, 6 months ago

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Fixed point approach make this problem much easier.

Surya Prakash - 5 years, 6 months ago

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@Surya Prakash I don't think this problem deserves a level 5. I mean, it's good, but maybe a level 4?

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 years, 6 months ago

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@A Former Brilliant Member Yes you are right.

Surya Prakash - 5 years, 6 months ago

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@Surya Prakash The main part is framing the translational, rotational equations, and pure rolling condition. And then it's just solving them linearly. :D.

But, still, nice job with the problem

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 years, 6 months ago

@Kartik Sharma Yes you are right, in fact i used that also.:D

Mardokay Mosazghi - 5 years, 6 months ago

the sense of rotation will be anticlockwise ....and it will move to its left.

Krishna Mohan - 5 years, 6 months ago

I think there is something wrong .Rohit If the sense of rotation is clockwise(in ur solution) that means reel would go to right. Now for equation 1 u have assumed right as positive direction.But putting f = 75 N f=75 N in equation 1 we get a = 0.5 a=-0.5 so it will go to left.

Also for that τ = I α \tau =I \alpha u assumed clockwise as positive but putting f = 75 N f=75 N α \alpha comes out to be negative so anticlockwise.

I think right equations should be :

Assuming left to be positive -

100 20 f = 10 a = 100 α 100-20-f=10a=100\alpha

80 f = 100 α 80-f=100\alpha

500 + 200 10 f = 1000 α 500+200-10f=1000\alpha

70 f = 100 α 70-f=100\alpha

which gives no solution!!!. What do u say?

Edit:I forgot a minus sign.Sorry

Sandeep Sharma - 5 years, 6 months ago

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your first equation should be 20-100+f=10a
and it will rotate anticlockwise. and it will move to its left.

Krishna Mohan - 5 years, 6 months ago

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my first equation is correct bcoz i assumed left to be positive and also i was pointing out mistake in rohit's solution that it will rotate clockwise.Also rohit's statement and equation do not satisfy.

Sandeep Sharma - 5 years, 6 months ago

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@Sandeep Sharma then your 2nd equation is incorrect. if u have taken left to be positive then 2nd eqn would be 10f-200-500=1000(alpha).

Krishna Mohan - 5 years, 6 months ago

The rotation is anticlockwise. It can't be clockwise.

Surya Prakash - 5 years, 6 months ago

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yes i m saying same but see rohit's solution he has said the rotation would be clockwise. @Surya Prakash

Sandeep Sharma - 5 years, 6 months ago

why are my equations incorrect. The paragraph is for rohit's solution and after that the equations below are mine. @Surya Prakash . edit:I forgot the negative sign.sorry but rohit's solution is incorrect.

Sandeep Sharma - 5 years, 6 months ago

You could assume any sense of rotation as per your choice. If your assumption was wrong, your answer would simply come out to be negative.

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 years, 6 months ago

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