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Algebra Level 2

{ x + y = 27 x y = 1 \begin{cases} x+\sqrt y = 27 \\ \sqrt x - y = 1 \end{cases}

Given that x x and y y are positive integers satisfying the system of equations above, find x + y x+y .


The answer is 29.

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1 solution

Rishabh Jain
Feb 7, 2016

x + y = 27 x = 27 y . . . ( 1 ) x+\sqrt{y}=27\Rightarrow x=27-\sqrt{y}...(1) x y = 1 x = ( y + 1 ) 2 \sqrt{x}-y=1\\ \Rightarrow x=(y+1)^2 27 y = y 2 + 2 y + 1 ( Using (1) ) \Rightarrow 27-\sqrt{y}=y^2+2y+1~~(\text{Using (1)}) Let y = t \sqrt {y}=t t 4 18 t 2 t 54 = 0 ( t 2 ) ( t 3 + 2 t 2 + 6 t + 13 ) = 0 \Rightarrow t^4-18t^2-t-54=0\\ \Rightarrow (t-2)(t^3+2t^2+6t+13)=0 y = t = 2 ( ) \Rightarrow \sqrt {y} =t=2~\color{#302B94}{(**)} y = 4 , x = 27 y = 25 \Rightarrow y=4 ,x=27-\sqrt{y}=25 25 + 4 = 29 \Large 25+4=\huge\boxed{\color{#007fff}{29}} .


Further Analysis \color{forestgreen}{\boxed{\color{#302B94}{**\text{Further Analysis}}}}

Let f(t)= t 3 + 2 t 2 + 6 t + 13 t^3+2t^2+6t+13 . Differentiating t 3 + 2 t 2 + 6 t + 13 t^3+2t^2+6t+13 we can easily see that it is a increasing function(and also: lim x f ( t ) = + , lim x f ( t ) = \lim_{x\rightarrow\infty}f(t)=+\infty, \lim_{x\rightarrow{-\infty}}f(t)=-\infty which implies it can yield only one real t) and also f(-3)<0 and f(-2)>0 implies that only value of t lies between -3 and -2 {Apply Intermediate Value Theorem }which can be easily rejected since y is a positive integer.

Can you explain why you only took t=2?What about the other roots? @Rishabh Cool

Anik Mandal - 5 years, 4 months ago

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I have already written the explanation in further analysis...

Rishabh Jain - 5 years, 4 months ago

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How did you know it would yield only one real t t ?

Anik Mandal - 5 years, 4 months ago

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@Anik Mandal Since the function is continuous everywhere and also increasing (f'(t)>0) on R \mathcal{R} , this means that it will cut x axis only one time and hence will yield only one real t.

Rishabh Jain - 5 years, 4 months ago

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@Rishabh Jain So it has one real root which lies between -2 and -3 right?

Anik Mandal - 5 years, 4 months ago

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@Anik Mandal Yup ... ...........

Rishabh Jain - 5 years, 4 months ago

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@Rishabh Jain Thanks! And another doubt:Is every polynomial function continuous?Why?

Anik Mandal - 5 years, 4 months ago

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@Anik Mandal Refer this ......This would surely help

Rishabh Jain - 5 years, 4 months ago

Risabh Cool

How t 4 18 t 2 t 54 = ( t 2 ) ( t 3 + 2 t 2 + 6 t + 13 ) t^4 - 18t^2- t - 54 = ( t-2)(t^3 + 2t^2+6t+13) ?

Teach me please !!!

@Rishabh Cool

@Anik Mandal

And everyone that are reading this

Jason Chrysoprase - 5 years, 4 months ago

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by trial and error you see 2 is a root of the equation,which means ( t 2 ) (t-2) is a factor.This is what has been done.!

Anik Mandal - 5 years, 4 months ago

Thx, now I know

Jason Chrysoprase - 5 years, 4 months ago

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