Nested Radicals (2)

Algebra Level 3

Rad Chad, after seeing the first problem , wanted to know if he could generalize it. So, he starts with the equation x = k + k + k + . x=\sqrt{k+\sqrt{k+\sqrt{k+\cdots}}}. Then x 2 k = k + k + k + = x x 2 x k = 0. \begin{aligned} x^2-k&=\sqrt{k+\sqrt{k+\sqrt{k+\dots}}}\\&=x\\\\ \Rightarrow x^2-x-k&=0. \end{aligned} Chad then used the quadratic formula to solve for x x as a function of k k ( ( with a = 1 , b = 1 , c = k ) : a=1,~b=-1, c=-k): x = ( 1 ) + ( 1 ) 2 4 ( 1 ) ( k ) 2 ( 1 ) = 1 + 1 + 4 k 2 . x=\frac{-(-1)+\sqrt{(-1)^2-4(1)(-k)}}{2(1)}=\frac{1+\sqrt{1+4k}}{2}. Being the good mathematician he is, Chad checks his model with the previous example: 1 + 1 + 4 ( 12 ) 2 = 8 2 = 4 . \frac{1+\sqrt{1+4(12)}}{2}=\frac{8}{2}=\boxed{4}. Is Chad's model correct for all values of k ? k?

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Yes No, the model needs the ± \pm sign No, the model is not completely accurate

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For c=0, the answer would be 1, which is incorrect.

Why is it true when c=12 ?

A Former Brilliant Member - 2 years, 8 months ago

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It is true for most numbers, but not for all. I will answer your question in a later problem.

Blan Morrison - 2 years, 8 months ago

This explains why "Yes" is not the correct answer.

Why is the given answer correct?

Brian Moehring - 2 years, 8 months ago

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The lack of a negative symbol at the beginning implies that ± \pm is not necessary. It would be nonsense to say that 12 + 12 + 12 + \sqrt{12+\sqrt{12+\sqrt{12+\dots}}} is equal to -3.

Blan Morrison - 2 years, 8 months ago

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Is it not equivalent to say 0 + 0 + 0 + = 1 + 1 + 4 ( 0 ) 2 \sqrt{0 + \sqrt{0 + \sqrt{0 + \cdots}}} = \frac{1 + \sqrt{1 + 4(0)}}{2} is nonsense, but that 0 + 0 + 0 + = 1 1 + 4 ( 0 ) 2 \sqrt{0 + \sqrt{0 + \sqrt{0 + \cdots}}} = \frac{1 - \sqrt{1 + 4(0)}}{2} is true, so by this example, we must have c + c + c + = 1 1 + 4 c 2 \sqrt{c + \sqrt{c + \sqrt{c + \cdots}}} = \frac{1 - \sqrt{1+4c}}{2} ?

Of course, I'm being a little facetious, but your response was a bit of a non sequitur. I asked why the "correct" answer is correct, not why we could ignore the minus sign for c > 0 c>0 (which is really the furthest I can extend your response)

Brian Moehring - 2 years, 8 months ago

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@Brian Moehring I do see your point. Zero is always a very strange number. Feel free to leave a report and tag a moderator, or see the discussion thread .

Blan Morrison - 2 years, 8 months ago

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