So Many Nested Roots!

Algebra Level 4

{ 2 2 2 0 + 2 2 2 1 + 2 2 2 2 + 2 2 2 3 + 2 2 2 4 = x y 11 + 13 + 2 15 + 3 17 + 4 19 + 5 = x + y + a \begin{cases} \sqrt{ \dfrac{2}{2^{2^0}} + \sqrt{ \dfrac{2}{2^{2^1}} + \sqrt{ \dfrac{2}{2^{2^2}} + \sqrt{ \dfrac{2}{2^{2^3}} + \sqrt{ \dfrac{2}{2^{2^4}}\cdots}}}}} = \sqrt{xy} \\ \sqrt{ 11 + \sqrt{ 13 + 2\sqrt{ 15 + 3\sqrt{17 + 4\sqrt{ 19 +5\sqrt{\cdots}}}}}} = x + y + a \end{cases}

If the system of equations above holds true for positive real numbers x x , y y and a a , with y y being a prime number, find the value of

a a a a 3 3 3 3 . \begin{aligned} \sqrt[3]{ a \sqrt[3]{ a \sqrt[3]{a \sqrt[3]{a \cdots}}}}. \end{aligned}


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Chew-Seong Cheong
Apr 12, 2017

From the reference on nested radical (eqn. 18) , we have:

2 2 2 0 + 2 2 2 1 + 2 2 2 2 + 2 2 2 3 + 2 2 2 4 + = 2 \sqrt{\frac 2{2^{2^0}} +\sqrt{\frac 2{2^{2^1}} +\sqrt{\frac 2{2^{2^2}} +\sqrt{\frac 2{2^{2^3}} +\sqrt{\frac 2{2^{2^4}} +\cdots}}}}} = \sqrt 2

x = 1 \implies x=1 and y = 2 y=2 .

Using Ramanujan's formula (eqn. 26) below:

x + y + a = y x + ( a + y ) 2 + x y ( x + a ) + ( a + y ) 2 + ( x + a ) y ( x + 2 a ) + ( a + y ) 2 + ( x + 2 a ) x+y+a = \sqrt{yx+(a+y)^2+x\sqrt{y(x+a)+(a+y)^2+(x+a)\sqrt{y(x+2a)+(a+y)^2+(x+2a)\sqrt \cdots}}}

Putting x = 1 x=1 , y = 2 y=2 and a = 1 a=1 :

1 + 2 + 1 = 2 + ( 1 + 2 ) 2 + 2 ( 1 + 1 ) + ( 1 + 2 ) 2 + ( 1 + 1 ) 2 ( 1 + 2 ) + ( 1 + 2 ) 2 + ( 1 + 2 ) = 11 + 13 + 2 15 + 3 17 + 4 19 + 5 \begin{aligned} 1+2+1 & = \sqrt{2+(1+2)^2+\sqrt{2(1+1)+(1+2)^2+(1+1)\sqrt{2(1+2)+(1+2)^2+(1+2)\sqrt \cdots}}} \\ & = \sqrt{11+\sqrt{13+ 2 \sqrt {15+3\sqrt{17 + 4\sqrt{19 + 5\sqrt \cdots}}}}} \end{aligned}

a = 1 \implies a = 1 . Therefore, a a a a 3 3 3 3 3 = 1 1 1 1 3 3 3 3 3 = 1 \sqrt [3] {a\sqrt [3] {a\sqrt [3] {a\sqrt [3] {a\sqrt [3] {\cdots}}}}} = \sqrt [3] {1\sqrt [3] {1\sqrt [3] {1\sqrt [3] {1\sqrt [3] {\cdots}}}}} = \boxed{1}

I was expecting that you could give a practical solution for the first equation.. I can't understand the explanation from the website that you've given there.

Fidel Simanjuntak - 4 years, 2 months ago

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Coz, i'm wondering, is it true that n n n 0 + n n n 1 + n n n 2 + n n n 3 + n n n 4 = n \sqrt{ \dfrac{n}{n^{n^0}} + \sqrt{ \dfrac{n}{n^{n^1}} + \sqrt{ \dfrac{n}{n^{n^2}} + \sqrt{ \dfrac{n}{n^{n^3}} + \sqrt{ \dfrac{n}{n^{n^4}}\cdots}}}}} = \sqrt{n}

For n n is a positive real integer..?

Fidel Simanjuntak - 4 years, 2 months ago

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I don't think so. If it works, I think the Wolfram MathWorld reference would have included it. The reference is quite thorough. It works for n = 1 n=1 and n = 2 n=2 . But I numerically check for n = 3 n=3 it diverges. The n = 2 n=2 is a special case of the equation below putting q = 1 2 q=\frac 12 , n = 2 n=2 , x = 1 x=1 and k = 1 k=-1 . You can try with different q q to see.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 4 years, 1 month ago

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@Chew-Seong Cheong I am sorry for bothering you. But for me, I can't see it clearly, becoz it's a bit blur and I have a problem with my eyes.. Can you help me?

Fidel Simanjuntak - 4 years, 1 month ago

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@Fidel Simanjuntak You mean you can't see the formula I posted? It is very long and complicated. Perhaps you can ask people around to jot it down for you.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 4 years, 1 month ago

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@Chew-Seong Cheong Yeah, it's very long and complicated. Moreover, it's a bit blur..

Fidel Simanjuntak - 4 years, 1 month ago

@Fidel Simanjuntak Sending you an enlarged image. I hope that it works. https://imgur.com/a/6IDyS

Chew-Seong Cheong - 4 years, 1 month ago

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@Chew-Seong Cheong Thank you, sir

Fidel Simanjuntak - 4 years, 1 month ago

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