NMTC 2015 Final Q5

Algebra Level 3

a + b + c + d + e + f = 1 a + b c + d e + f = 1 5 a + 4 b + 3 c + 2 d + e = 0 5 a 4 b + 3 c 2 d + e = 0 20 a + 12 b + 6 c + 2 d = 0 20 a + 12 b 6 c + 2 d = 0 \begin{aligned} a + b + c + d + e + f& = &1\\ -a + b - c + d - e + f& = &-1 \\ 5a + 4b + 3c + 2d + e& =&0 \\ 5a - 4b + 3c - 2d + e& = 0 \\ 20a + 12b + 6c + 2d& = &0 \\ -20a + 12b - 6c + 2d& = &0 \end{aligned} .

Find a b c d e f abcdef


The answer is 0.

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2 solutions

Rishabh Jain
Dec 31, 2015

Eqn3 - Eqn4 gives 2b+d=0 ------------(7)

Eqn5+ Eqn6 gives 6b+d=0 ------------(8)

From (7) and (8) , b=d=0

Adding (1) and (2) and using b=d=0,we get f=0.

Now we are left with 3 equations in 3 variables that are a,c and e.

a+c+e=1

5a+3c+e=0

20a+6c=0

These can be solved easily to get a=3/8,c=-5/4,e=15/8 and hence abcdef=0

Nice but please give answers of other variables.

Priyanshu Mishra - 5 years, 5 months ago

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Absolutely not required, for claiming the product abcdef zero, it is sufficient to show that least one of them is zero. Anyways a,b,c,d,e,f∈{0}.

Rishabh Jain - 5 years, 5 months ago

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How did you know that "a,b,c,d,e,f∈R"?

Pi Han Goh - 5 years, 5 months ago

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@Pi Han Goh Made some edits.....Now is it correct??

Rishabh Jain - 5 years, 5 months ago

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@Rishabh Jain You still need to show that the there the values of a,c,e are finite values, else you wouldn't know whether the system of equations is satisfied.

Pi Han Goh - 5 years, 5 months ago

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@Pi Han Goh But from the equations it is obvious that for undefined values of a,c,e these 6 equations cannot turn into something finite. I am a bit confused.....

Rishabh Jain - 5 years, 5 months ago

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@Rishabh Jain No no, you misunderstood. When you're writing a solution, you need to make sure the problem statement is correct as well, instead of just assuming it to be correct.

If you only know that b=d=0, how do you know that two of the equations given can't be simplified to a + b = 4 a+b=4 and a b = 5 a-b=5 (which is absurd)?

The issue here is that you ALREADY assumed a,b,c,d,e are finite values, when in fact you shouldn't make such an assumption. That's why after knowing that b=d=0, you still have to prove that a,c,e are finite values and all these values satisfy all the given equations.

Pi Han Goh - 5 years, 5 months ago

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@Pi Han Goh Ok ...I understood your point. I will edit my solution. Thanks for the valuable time.... :)

Rishabh Jain - 5 years, 5 months ago
Priyanshu Mishra
Jan 2, 2016

I have changed the problem. Now try it and post solutions.

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