A Weird Cut Of Concentric Circles

Geometry Level 3

In the figure above, the circles are concentric with centre O O . B B is a point on the larger circle. D D is a point on the smaller circle. B D BD is joined, provided that B D BD touches the circle at only one point. Now O B OB is joined and extended to meet the larger circle at A A . Find the distance between points A A and D D if the radii of the circles are 4 13 4\sqrt{13} and 8 8 units respectively.

Clarification : Concentric circles are circles with a common centre.


The answer is 20.

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Since 4 13 > 8 4\sqrt{13} > 8 , the smaller circle has a radius 8 and the larger circle has a radius of 4 13 4\sqrt{13} .

Clearly, B D BD is tangent to the smaller circle at D D . Therefore angle B D O = 9 0 BDO = 90^\circ . Then by Pythagorean theorem

B D 2 + O D 2 = O B 2 B D = O B 2 O D 2 = ( 4 13 ) 2 8 2 = 208 64 = 144 = 12 BD^2 + OD^2 = OB^2 \Rightarrow BD = \sqrt{OB^2 -OD^2} = \sqrt{(4\sqrt{13})^2 - 8^2} = \sqrt{208 - 64} = \sqrt{144} = 12

Now extend B D BD to a point E on the larger circle. Join A D AD .

Since O B OB was extended to meet the larger circle at A A , A B AB is the diameter of the larger circle.

Since angle A E B AEB is enclosed in the semicircle, angle A E B AEB is 9 0 90 ^\circ .

In triangle O D B ODB and triangle A E B AEB , angle O B D OBD is common and angle O D B ODB and angle A E B AEB are both 9 0 90^\circ . Therefore triangle O D B ODB and triangle A E B AEB are similar. Then,

O B A B = O D A E = B D B E 4 13 8 13 = 8 A E = 12 B E \dfrac{OB}{AB} = \dfrac{OD}{AE} = \dfrac{BD}{BE} \Rightarrow \dfrac{4\sqrt{13}}{8\sqrt{13}} = \dfrac8{AE} =\dfrac{12}{BE}

Clearly, A E = 16 AE=16 and B E = 24 BE=24 . E D = B E B D = 12. ED = BE-BD = 12.

Triangle A E D AED is right angled at E E . Therefore

A D = A E 2 + E D 2 = 1 6 2 + 1 2 2 = 20 . AD = \sqrt{AE^2 + ED^2} = \sqrt{16^2 + 12^2} = \boxed{20} .

I did it the same way!

Elvin Ding - 5 years, 3 months ago

Why do you write "Find the smallest distance between point A and D" when the length AD is unchanged?

Tran Quoc Dat - 5 years, 3 months ago

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Its just a simple intentional statement to make the question more complicated

Arkajyoti Banerjee - 5 years, 2 months ago

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It is generally best not to unnecessarily complicate the problem.

Imagine if you had to do run a mile before you could submit the answer ...

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 2 months ago

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@Calvin Lin That escalated quickly.

Mehul Arora - 5 years, 2 months ago
Utkarsh Tiwari
Mar 12, 2016

The simplest method is by the use of coordinate geometry... take the circles with center as the origin then find sin theta and cos theta by trigonometry now the coordinates of A(12,8) by parametric form and B will be (0,-8) using distance formula find AB.

Assume as given in the sketch (but not in the description,) that angle ODB = 90 degrees.
I n r t . Δ O B D B D 2 = ( 4 13 ) 2 8 2 = 16 9 C o s O B D = 16 9 4 13 = 3 13 A p p l y i n g C o s R u l e t o Δ A B D , A D 2 = A B 2 + B D 2 2 A B B D C o s O B D = 4 16 13 + 16 9 2 ( 8 13 ) ( 4 3 ) ( 3 13 ) = 400. Smallest distance between two points is a st. line. A D = 20. In ~rt. ~\Delta OBD ~~BD^2=(4\sqrt{13})^2 - 8^2=16*9 ~~\therefore ~CosOBD=\dfrac {\sqrt{16*9}}{4\sqrt{13}}=\dfrac 3 {\sqrt{13}}\\ Applying ~Cos ~Rule ~to ~\Delta ABD,\\ AD^2 = AB^2+BD^2 - 2*AB*BD*CosOBD\\ =4*16*13+16*9 - 2*(8\sqrt{13})*(4*3)*(\dfrac 3 {\sqrt{13}})=400.\\ \text{Smallest distance between two points is a st. line. } \therefore ~AD=20.

Edwin Gray
May 15, 2018

Using the Pythagorean Theorem, BD = sqrt((4 sqrt(13)^2 - 8^2)) = 12. Angle B = arctan(8/12) = 33.69006753. Finally, using the law of cosines, (AD)^2 = (8 sqrt(13)^2 + 12^2 - 2 12 8 sqrt(13) cos(33.69006753) = 400, so AD = 20. Ed Gray

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