Find positive integer n such that:
x → 3 lim x − 3 x n − 3 n = 1 0 8
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You play the piano @Krishna Karthik ? I saw it in your profile.
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@Percy Jackson Yeah; of course. I've been playing for 5 years. Currently at grade 8 piano level in Australia.
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Cool! I've just started learning. I can't read sheet music yet, but I know how to play a few of my fav songs like Fur Elise.
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@A Former Brilliant Member – @Percy Jackson Can you play the full piece or just the A section?
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@Krishna Karthik – Full, I learnt it from youtube videos though lol
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@A Former Brilliant Member – Full speed? Btw I hope you keep good hand posture. That's pretty good for learning from youtube videos.
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@Krishna Karthik – Not the exact full speed, I'm kinda slow, but yeah hand posture, and everything is correct.
Given that
x → 3 lim x − 3 x n − 3 n x → 3 lim 1 n x n − 1 n 3 n − 1 ⟹ n = 1 0 8 = 1 0 8 = 1 0 8 = 4 A 0/0 case, L’H o ˆ pital’s rule applies Differentiate up and down w.r.t. x
Reference: L'Hôpital's rule
Evaluating the LHS, we get :
x → 3 lim x − 3 x n − 3 n n × 3 n − 1 n × 3 n − 1 = n × 3 n − 1 = 1 0 8 = 4 × 2 7 n = 4
( 4 × 3 4 − 1 = 4 × 3 3 = 4 × 2 7 = 1 0 8 )
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@Percy Jackson Solved. A simple case of l'Hôpital does the trick.
@Percy Jackson I managed to post a slightly different solution; I used a more general approach to solving the equation. Btw nice use of 4 × 2 7 = 1 0 8 :)
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Nice bro. Looks like there's no 'limit' to the number of different solutions this problem has. lol that was a joke my Math teacher cracked once, it was followed by an awkward silence, and she never made a joke again.
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@Percy Jackson Wait you do limits in grade 10 in school maths?
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@Krishna Karthik – Ya, that's the thing, I'm in grade 11. I gave a wrong birth date on Brilliant so I'm 15 here till new year lol
The form of the limit is exactly the derivative of x n at the point x = 3 - that is n ⋅ 3 n − 1 = 1 0 8
Since we know we're after an integer, we can solve by inspection and find n = 4 .
Ah, good old inspection :)
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Here's some background info for my solution: Lambert w function
In this problem, you can simply use inspection to guess the value of n . Here is a more rigorous and generalised approach:
I just used l'Hôpital's rule; d x d ( x n − 3 n ) = 1 0 8
Evaluating results in:
n ( 3 n − 1 ) = 1 0 8
I am giving a more general way of solving the equation above:
Leaving the expression in Lambert form:
n e ln ( 3 ) ( n − 1 ) = 1 0 8
Using the substitutions:
u = n ln ( 3 )
n = ln ( 3 ) u
Simplifying yields ln ( 3 ) e u − ln ( 3 ) u = 1 0 8
Which in Lambert form is:
e u u = 3 2 4 ln ( 3 )
So u = 4 ln ( 3 ) .
Substituting back gives n = 4