NSEJS 2015 Problem 2

Geometry Level 2

Consider a parallelogram with adjacent sides 20 m 20\text{ m} and 30 m 30\text{ m} . If one of the diagonal of the parallelogram is 40 m 40\text{ m} .

Find the length of the other diagonal.

50 m 50 \text{ m} 10 10 m 10\sqrt{10} \text{ m} 100 5 m 100\sqrt{5} \text{ m} 5 2 m 5\sqrt{2} \text{ m}

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7 solutions

Brandon Johnson
Nov 23, 2015

I just used process of elimination:

There will be a triangle formed with side lengths of 20, 30, and x; where x is the length of the missing diagonal. The Triangle Inequality says that the sum of the two shorter sides is greater than the length of the longest side.

100 5 \sqrt{5} is not the answer, because 100 5 \sqrt{5} > 20 + 30

5 2 \sqrt{2} is not the answer, because 30 > 20 + 5 2 \sqrt{2}

10 10 \sqrt{10} is a possible solution, because 10 10 \sqrt{10} < 30 + 20

50 is not the answer because 20 + 30 = 50.

Since a, b, and d are impossible; the answer must be 10 10 \boxed{10\sqrt{10}}

so isnt this an over-rated question because of such easy options ....

Ganesh Ayyappan - 5 years, 6 months ago

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I'd say so. I only used this method because I expected to eliminate one or two obviously incorrect answers. When I eliminated 3, I saw that my work was done.

Brandon Johnson - 5 years, 6 months ago

Even I used same approach.

Akshat Sharda - 5 years, 6 months ago

I attempted this question in my NSEJS paper.Its from 2015 paper right ?

Sai Ram - 4 years, 7 months ago
Praful Jain
Nov 24, 2015

really nice solution brother .. nice approach .. HATS OFF ... i never got this idea

Ganesh Ayyappan - 5 years, 6 months ago
Jaclyn MacLeod
Nov 23, 2015

I use the law of cosines:

400^2 = 30^2 +20^20 - 2 (30)(20)cosC C = 104.5°

This is the measurement for the angles not cut by the 40m diagonal.

Then : 180° - 104.5° = 75.5° is the measure of the other pair of angles.

Then I use the law of cosine again to find the length of the other diagonal.

C^2 = 30^2 + 20^2 - 2 (30)(20)cos (75.5) C = sqrt (1000) = 10 sqrt (10)

  • I apologize for the format but I am working from my cell phone.

180 104.5 = 75.2 180-104.5=75.2 ?

Daniel Lim - 5 years, 6 months ago

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Haha my bad. Typo.

Jaclyn MacLeod - 5 years, 6 months ago

I think none of us remember cos 104. 5 \cos 104.5^\circ .

Vishal Yadav - 5 years, 6 months ago

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Let a=20 =AD=BC and b=30=AB=CD and diagonal be x=BD=40 and let the missing diagonal be y Here by cosine rule a^2+b^2-(2ab)cos A= x^2 We know that cosD = -cosA , therefore a^2+b^2+2abcosA=y^2 Therefore adding the two equ we get 2(a^2)+2(b^2)=x^2+y^2 Putting the values for a,band x we get 2(400)+ 2(900)=1600 +y^2 2600-1600= y^2 Therefore y^2= 1000

Tejas Khairnar - 5 years, 6 months ago

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Can you please use latex code ?

Vishal Yadav - 5 years, 6 months ago

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@Vishal Yadav I m workin on that

Tejas Khairnar - 5 years, 6 months ago
Anukool Bhopatkar
Nov 28, 2015

Can't we use the parallelogram law? Sum of the squares of the sides of the parallelogram = Sum of the squares of the diagonals.

I used it and got the right answer;

20^{2} + 20^{2} + 30^{2} + 30^{2} = 40^{2} + x^{2}

2600= 1600 + x^{2}

x^{2}= 1000

x= 10 sqrt{10}

Akshay Yadav
Nov 24, 2015

I used co-ordinate geometery to solve the problem,

After I had plotted the quadilateral(As shown in the image), I had to determine the value of co-ordinates of point D,

2 0 2 = ( x 1 0 ) 2 + ( y 1 0 ) 2 20^{2}=(x_{1}-0)^{2}+(y_{1}-0)^{2}

400 = ( x 1 ) 2 + ( y 1 ) 2 400=(x_{1})^{2}+(y_{1})^{2}

Now,

4 0 2 = ( x 1 30 ) 2 + ( y 1 0 ) 2 40^{2}=(x_{1}-30)^{2}+(y_{1}-0)^{2}

1600 = ( x 1 ) 2 + 900 60 ( x 1 ) + ( y 1 ) 2 1600=(x_{1})^{2}+900-60(x_{1})+(y_{1})^{2}

Placing values,

700 = 400 60 ( x 1 ) 700=400-60(x_{1})

x 1 = 5 x_{1}=-5

And, y 1 = 375 y_{1}=\sqrt{375}

Now co-ordinates of point C,

x 2 = 30 0 + ( 5 ) , y 2 = 0 0 + 375 x_{2}=30-0+(-5), y_{2}=0-0+\sqrt{375}

x 2 = 25 , y 2 = 375 x_{2}=25, y_{2}=\sqrt{375}

Now we just need to find the distance AC,

( A C ) 2 = ( 25 0 ) 2 + ( 375 0 ) 2 (AC)^{2}=(25-0)^{2}+(\sqrt{375}-0)^{2}

A C = ( 625 + 375 ) AC=\sqrt{(625+375)}

A C = 1000 AC=\sqrt{1000}

A C = 10 10 AC=10\sqrt{10}

It will look better if you turn the image by 9 0 90^\circ .

Vishal Yadav - 5 years, 6 months ago
Kalash Pai
Nov 29, 2015

I used Appolonius Theorem.

汶良 林
Nov 29, 2015

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