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x = 19 + 91 19 + 91 19 + 91 19 + 91 19 + 91 x x = \sqrt{19} + \dfrac{91}{{\sqrt{19}+\dfrac{91}{{\sqrt{19}+\dfrac{91}{{\sqrt{19}+\dfrac{91}{{\sqrt{19}+\dfrac{91}{x}}}}}}}}}

Find A 2 A^2_{} , where A A^{}_{} is the sum of the absolute values of all roots of the equation above.


The answer is 383.

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3 solutions

Kritarth Lohomi
Feb 22, 2015

Let f ( x ) = 19 + 91 x f(x) = \sqrt{19} + \frac{91}{x} . Then x = f ( f ( f ( f ( f ( x ) ) ) ) ) x = f(f(f(f(f(x))))) , from which we realize that f ( x ) = x f(x) = x . This is because if we expand the entire expression, we will get a fraction of the form a x + b c x + d \frac{ax + b}{cx + d} on the right hand side, which makes the equation simplify to a quadratic. As this quadratic will have two roots, they must be the same roots as the quadratic f ( x ) = x . f(x)=x. The given finite expansion can then be easily seen to reduce to the quadratic equation x 2 19 x 91 = 0 x_{}^{2}-\sqrt{19}x-91=0 . The solutions are x ± = 19 ± 383 2 x_{\pm}^{}=\frac{\sqrt{19}\pm\sqrt{383}}{2} . Therefore, A = x + + x = 383 A_{}^{}=\vert x_{+}\vert+\vert x_{-}\vert=\sqrt{383} . We conclude that A 2 = 383. \boxed {A_{}^{2}=383.}

used same logic.

Aareyan Manzoor - 6 years, 3 months ago

In your quadratic equation sum can directly be found which is -b/a=19^0.5=A. Hence A^2=19 ans. Pls recheck.....

Rahul Malhotra - 5 years, 2 months ago

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The problem asks for the sum of absolute values of the roots, not simply the sum of roots.

Saurabh Chaturvedi - 5 years, 2 months ago

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Recall that the absolute value of any complex number a + i b a+ib is a 2 + b 2 \sqrt{a^2 + b^2} . And all real numbers are complex numbers.

Manish Mayank - 5 years, 2 months ago

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@Manish Mayank So? What if b is zero? The expression reduces to |a|. And the expression does have real roots.

Saurabh Chaturvedi - 5 years, 2 months ago

Yes please check your answer ..... Even I think the answer should be 19...

abc xyz - 5 years, 2 months ago

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yes it should be 19 as well

anil kumar - 5 years, 2 months ago

If this were not a maths site, i'd be concerned! (Regarding the name of the problem... )

Satyam Bhardwaj - 6 years, 2 months ago

I forgot adding the absolute value of roots

lk sharma - 5 years, 2 months ago

Highly overrated problem! Still,

x = 19 + 91 / x x=\sqrt{19} + 91/x . Solving this quadratic yields,

x 1 = 19 + 383 / 2 x_1= \sqrt{19} +\sqrt{383}/2 And x 2 = 19 383 / 2 x_2= \sqrt{19} -\sqrt{383}/2

Hence ( x 1 + x 2 ) 2 (|x_1| + |x_2|)^{2} = 383 \boxed{383}

Shivang Garg
Apr 2, 2016

We can convert problem in infinite loop problem by repeated substitution of x and then use infinite loop method to solve it

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