Octagon divided into 6 parts

Geometry Level 2

A father died and left his 6 sons an octagon field with 8 equal side lengths but different angles, as shown in the figure below.

The 6 sons want to divide the field up into 6 congruent parts, but do not care about the position or orientation.

Using only a ruler, can we divide the field into 6 identical parts?


Source: French Mathematical Olympiad 1988 .

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1 solution

Michael Mendrin
Nov 29, 2016

For the rare few who were lucky in guessing the correct answer but are not certain how it's dissected into 6 congruent parts, below is the graphic showing how it's done. The relation to the pentagon is obvious. It's possible to accurately sketch out the dissection entirely with the use of just a straightedge, given the perimeter.

Below is the same graphic with green construction lines included. One can see the two pentagons side-by-side, each pentagon being composed of 4 acute isosceles triangles and 3 smaller obtuse isosceles triangles. Together with 4 more acute isosceles triangles at the top and bottom, there is a total of 12 acute isosceles triangles and 6 smaller obtuse isosceles triangles, 1/6 of which are 2 acute isosceles triangles and 1 smaller obtuse isosceles triangle. That suggests that one of the pieces might be composed of just that.

WHOA! I'm impressed!

Calvin Lin Staff - 4 years, 6 months ago

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Can you modify the question to make the answer more difficult to guess because the level of this problem mustn't be 1. propositions of the new answer: giving the total number of segments and vertices in the solution or the measurement of the biggest angle.

Mr X - 4 years, 6 months ago

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How do we know that there are not multiple different solutions?

Calvin Lin Staff - 4 years, 6 months ago

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@Calvin Lin I asked myself this question before. It's very hard to prove that there is no other solutions. Anyway, In case that someone report the problem because he found another solution I will be more than happy.

Mr X - 4 years, 6 months ago

You've hit a problem on the head---some of the hardest problems I've had to solve here in Brilliant are some of those "Yes or No" multiple choice questions. Surprisingly, about half of the people get these very difficult problems correctly!

Michael Mendrin - 4 years, 6 months ago

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@Michael Mendrin One way to solve this issue is to treat multiple choice questions differently. It's clear that if half people solve a yes-no problem correctly and the other half just made a guess then the expected good answer is 75% of cases. The evaluation of a problem's level is surely not easy.

Mr X - 4 years, 6 months ago

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@Mr X See How Do I Turn Around? on how I handled this. It could have very easily been another "Yes or No" question, but I stuffed a couple more "answers". But it does take a certain creative ability to come up with some convincing not-the-correct-answers.

I think what Brilliant can do is to have a suggestion box come up somewhere anytime the "Publish" key is clicked, and it can suggest how to avoid "this or that" multiple choices.

Michael Mendrin - 4 years, 6 months ago

There are actually some solutions in this French site , which involves dissecting info about the angles and segments.

Michael Huang - 4 years, 6 months ago

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Man, I only wish I could have found that site on solutions. I had just guessed "yes" and then discovered that there was no solution posted. It drove me crazy finding this solution. THEN here you are with the link to solutions.

Thanks for the link, though. It does clearly show the constructions in which to help find the solution.

What's interesting about this 5-equal-sided polygon is that one can construct a alternative form of the regular dodecahedron using 12 of them.

Michael Mendrin - 4 years, 6 months ago

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It is different when you find it yourself. Like you I spent a lot of time solving this problem.

Mr X - 4 years, 6 months ago

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@Mr X I find that sometimes trial-and-error does not work, even when working with unfamiliar shape problems. Greatly appreciate the solution and your thoughts. :)

Michael Huang - 4 years, 6 months ago

After the edit, the solution becomes even better! Nicely written! Couldn't think of something in my own words. XD

Michael Huang - 4 years, 6 months ago

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