Oddly defined triangle (2)

Geometry Level 5

A B C \triangle ABC has a vertex at ( 2 , 6 ) , (2,6), orthocenter O O at ( 3 , 3 ) , (3,3), and circumcenter Γ \Gamma at ( 3 , 6 ) . (-3,-6).

If the perimeter of A B C \triangle ABC is P , P, find P . \left \lfloor P \right \rfloor.


The answer is 62.

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Mark Hennings
Apr 5, 2018

If we shift the coordinate system so that the circumcentre Γ \Gamma is at the origin, then A A has coordinates ( 5 , 12 ) (5,12) and the orthocentre O O has coordinates ( 6 , 9 ) (6,9) . If the position vectors of A , B , C A,B,C relative to the origin Γ \Gamma are a , b , c \mathbf{a},\mathbf{b},\mathbf{c} , then we have a = ( 5 12 ) a + b + c = ( 6 9 ) \mathbf{a} \; = \; \left(\begin{array}{c} 5 \\ 12 \end{array}\right) \hspace{2cm} \mathbf{a}+\mathbf{b} + \mathbf{c} \; = \; \left(\begin{array}{c} 6 \\ 9 \end{array}\right) Note that the circumradius is R = 13 R = 13 and that b + c = ( 1 3 ) \mathbf{b} + \mathbf{c} \; = \; \left(\begin{array}{c} 1 \\ -3 \end{array} \right) Moreover c b \mathbf{c} - \mathbf{b} must be perpendicular to b + c \mathbf{b} + \mathbf{c} (since b , c \mathbf{b},\mathbf{c} both have length 13 13 ), so must be parallel to ( 3 1 ) \binom{3}{1} . Thus we must have b = ( 1 2 ( 1 3 u ) 1 2 ( 3 + u ) ) c = ( 1 2 ( 1 + 3 u ) 1 2 ( u 3 ) ) \mathbf{b} \; = \; \left(\begin{array}{c}\tfrac12(1-3u) \\ -\tfrac12(3+u)\end{array}\right) \hspace{2cm} \mathbf{c} \; = \; \left(\begin{array}{c} \tfrac12(1+3u) \\ \tfrac12(u-3)\end{array} \right) for some u u . Since b \mathbf{b} has length 13 13 , we deduce that 169 = 1 4 ( 1 3 u ) 2 + 1 4 ( 3 + u ) 2 = 5 2 ( u 2 + 1 ) 169 \; = \; \tfrac14(1-3u)^2 + \tfrac14(3+u)^2 \; = \; \tfrac{5}{2}(u^2 + 1) and so that u = 3 37 5 u = 3\sqrt{\tfrac{37}{5}} . Since a b = ( 1 2 ( 9 + 3 u ) 1 2 ( 27 + u ) ) \mathbf{a} - \mathbf{b} \; = \; \left(\begin{array}{c}\tfrac12(9 + 3u) \\ \tfrac12(27 + u)\end{array}\right) we deduce that A B 2 = 1 4 ( 9 + 3 u ) 2 + 1 4 ( 27 + u ) 2 = 5 2 ( u 2 + 81 ) + 27 u = 369 + 27 u AB^2 \; = \; \tfrac14(9 + 3u)^2 + \tfrac14(27 + u)^2 \; = \; \tfrac52(u^2 + 81) + 27u \; = \; 369 + 27u and similarly A C 2 = 369 27 u AC^2 \; = \; 369 - 27u Also c b = ( 3 u u ) \mathbf{c} - \mathbf{b} \; = \; \left(\begin{array}{c} 3u \\ u \end{array}\right) and hence B C 2 = 10 u 2 BC^2 \; = \; 10u^2 Thus P = 369 + 27 u + 369 27 u + u 10 = 62.27584442 P \; = \; \sqrt{369 + 27u} + \sqrt{369 - 27u} + u\sqrt{10} \; = \; 62.27584442 making the answer P = 62 \lfloor P \rfloor = \boxed{62} .

Your usage of vectors is always wonderful. Any recommendation of books or other materials about vectors? I need to improve on this area.

Atomsky Jahid - 3 years, 1 month ago
Akeel Howell
Apr 4, 2018

With an orthocenter at ( 3 , 3 ) (3,3) and a circumcenter at ( 3 , 6 ) , A B C (-3,-6), \ \triangle ABC has a centroid at ( 1 , 3 ) (-1,-3) . The line that passes through A A and O O has equation y = 3 x + 12 y = -3x + 12 . Since this line is perpendicular to B C , B C \overline{BC}, \ \overline{BC} has a slope of 1 3 \dfrac{1}{3} .

Let the centroid of the triangle be denoted by Φ \Phi . The line containing A Φ \overline{A\Phi} has equation y = 3 x y = 3x . Since this line passes through vertex A A , it must also pass through the midpoint of B C \overline{BC} ( A Φ \overline{A\Phi} is a median).

Note that the circumcenter lies on the perpendicular bisector of B C \overline{BC} so the line that passes through the circumcenter of A B C \triangle ABC and the midpoint of B C \overline{BC} is also perpendicular to B C \overline{BC} , giving it the same slope as A O \overline{AO} . Hence, it has equation y = 3 x 15 y = -3x-15 .

The perpendicular bisector of B C \overline{BC} and the median through vertex A A meet at the midpoint of B C \overline{BC} . Hence, 3 x 15 = 3 x x = 5 2 -3x-15 = 3x \implies x = -\dfrac{5}{2} . Therefore, the equation of the line containing B C \overline{BC} is thus y = 1 3 ( x 20 ) y = \dfrac{1}{3} \left( x - 20 \right) . Checking the points where this line intersects the circumcircle yields: ( x + 3 ) 2 + ( y + 6 ) 2 = 169 ( x + 3 ) 2 + ( x 20 3 + 6 ) 2 = 169. \left( x+3 \right)^2 + \left( y+6 \right)^2 = 169 \implies \left( x+3 \right)^2 + \left( \dfrac{x-20}{3}+6 \right)^2 = 169. Expanding the equation above and completing the square yields

x { 5 + 9 37 5 2 , 9 37 5 5 2 } x \in \left\{ -\dfrac{5+9\sqrt{\dfrac{37}{5}}}{2}, \dfrac{9\sqrt{\dfrac{37}{5}}-5}{2}\right\} which when used in equation y = 1 3 ( x 20 ) y = \dfrac{1}{3}\left( x-20 \right) shows that the coordinates of vertices B B and C C are

( 5 + 9 37 5 2 , 15 + 3 37 5 2 ) and ( 9 37 5 5 2 , 3 37 5 15 2 ) . \left(-\dfrac{5+9\sqrt{\dfrac{37}{5}}}{2}, -\dfrac{15+3\sqrt{\dfrac{37}{5}}}{2} \right) \ \text{ and } \ \left( \dfrac{9\sqrt{\dfrac{37}{5}}-5}{2}, \dfrac{3\sqrt{\dfrac{37}{5}}-15}{2} \right).

Applying the distance formula to each pair of vertices gives the following approximate side lengths: { 24.276 , 25.807 , 12.192 } . \left\{ 24.276, \ 25.807 , \ 12.192\right\}. Therefore, P 62.275 P \approx 62.275 , so P = 62 \left \lfloor P \right \rfloor = 62 .

Above is the solution through geometric cunstraction to scale. Below is the analytical solution with the same logic.

C h a n g e t h e x y t o X Y w i t h o r i g i n a t O . S o A ( 5 , 12 ) , O ( 0 , 0 ) , Γ ( 6 , 9 ) . C i r c u m r a d i u s R = 5 2 + 1 2 2 = 13. S o c i r c u m c i r c l e i s X 2 + Y 2 = 1 3 2 . A l t i t u d e A M t h r o u g h Γ , Y = 9 12 6 5 ( X 6 ) + 9. . Y = 3 X + 27 . L e t t h e a l t i t u d e A M i n t e r s e c t t h e c i r c l e a t N . T h e n Y N = 3 X N + 27 X 2 + Y 2 = 1 3 2 , g i v e s N ( 11.2 , 6.6 ) . S i n c e N i s t h e r e f l e c t i o n o f Γ a b o u t B C , M , t h e m i d p o i n t o f Γ N i s t h e f o o t o f a l t i t u d e A M . c h o r d B C i s o n e s i d e o f Δ A B C . B C , g i v e C ( 11.741 , 5 58 ) , B ( 12.741 , 2.58 ) . U s i n g d i s t a n c e f o r m u l a P = 62.275. P 62 . Change~ the~ x\!-\!y~ to~ X\!-\!Y~ with~ origin~ at~ O.~~ ~ So~ A(5,12),~~ O(0,0),~~ \Gamma(6,9).\\ Circumradius~R=\sqrt{5^2+12^2}~=13. ~~So ~circumcircle~is~~\color{#3D99F6}{X^2+Y^2=13^2}.\\ Altitude~AM~through~\Gamma,~~~~~Y=\dfrac{9-12}{6-5}*(X-6)+9. \implies~. ~\color{#3D99F6}{Y=-3X+27}.\\ Let~the~altitude~AM~intersect~the ~circle~at~N.\\ Then~Y_N=-3X_N+27~\cap~X^2+Y^2=13^2,~~~gives~N(11.2,-6.6).\\ Since~ N~ is~ the ~reflection~ of~ \Gamma ~about~ BC, \\ \therefore~ M,~ the~ midpoint~ of~ \Gamma N~ is~ the~ foot~ of~ altitude ~AM. \\ \therefore~chord~BC~is~one~side~of~\Delta~ABC.\\ BC ~\cap~ \bigcirc,~~ give~ C(-11.741, - 5-58),~B(12.741,~2.58).\\ Using~distance ~formula~P=62.275. ~\Large~~\color{#D61F06}{P\approx~62}.

Why is 'N' the reflection of 'Gamma' about 'BC'?

Atomsky Jahid - 3 years, 1 month ago

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I was actually wondering the same thing. It doesn't seem that way from the picture (although it is supposedly drawn to scale); also, the point M is definitely not the midpoint of A Γ A\Gamma .

Akeel Howell - 3 years, 1 month ago

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Actually, he meant N Γ N\Gamma , not A Γ A\Gamma . It was a typo.

Atomsky Jahid - 3 years, 1 month ago

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@Atomsky Jahid Ah, I see. In that case, this reasoning is correct.

Consider the location of the orthocenter with respect to the circumcenter and centroid for various triangles.

Akeel Howell - 3 years ago

@Niranjan Khanderia Please see this comment thread!

Atomsky Jahid - 3 years, 1 month ago

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It is the property of orthocenter that its reflection about a line is on circumcircle. You may see the note on "orthocenter" under properties in BRILLANT. You may go to the web also. Have a nice time.

Niranjan Khanderia - 3 years ago

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