One Each Day Till They Go Away (Part 5)

Classical Mechanics Level pending

A particle of mass M = 1 kg M = 1 \text{kg} begins at position ( x , y ) = ( 2 , 0 ) (x,y) = (-2, 0) with velocity ( x ˙ , y ˙ ) = ( v 0 , 0 ) (\dot{x}, \dot{y} ) = (v_0, 0) . There is another particle of mass M M fixed in place at position ( x , y ) = ( 0 , 1 ) (x,y) = (0, 1) . The particles interact gravitationally, with the gravitational constant being 1 m 3 kg s 2 1 \frac{\text{m}^3}{\text{kg} \, \text{s}^2} .

If the moving particle passes through the point ( x , y ) = ( 4 , 1 ) (x,y) = (4, 1) , what is the value of v 0 v_0 ?

Note: The x x and y y coordinates of the moving particle should increase monotonically on the way to the end point


The answer is 2.752.

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2 solutions

Hosam Hajjir
Jun 9, 2021

First, we'll shift the coordinate frame to have its origin at the fixed particle which is positioned at ( 0 , 1 ) (0, 1) . Thus the fixed particle is now at ( 0 , 0 ) (0, 0) and the moving particle starts at ( 2 , 1 ) (-2, -1) , and the destination point is ( 4 , 0 ) (4, 0) .

Using polar coordinates, we can write

r ( t ) = ( x , y ) = r ( cos θ , sin θ ) \vec{r}(t) = (x, y) = r ( \cos \theta , \sin \theta )

Differentiating with respect to time t t ,

r ˙ = r ˙ ( cos θ , sin θ ) + r ( sin θ , cos θ ) θ ˙ \dot{\vec{r}} = \dot{r} (\cos \theta, \sin \theta) + r ( - \sin \theta, \cos \theta ) \dot{\theta}

Differentiating again,

r ¨ = r ¨ ( cos θ , sin θ ) + 2 r ˙ ( sin θ , cos θ ) θ ˙ + r ( cos θ , sin θ ) ( θ ˙ ) 2 + r ( sin θ , cos θ ) θ ¨ \ddot{\vec{r}} = \ddot{r} (\cos \theta, \sin \theta )+ 2 \dot{r} (- \sin \theta , \cos \theta) \dot{\theta} + r ( - \cos \theta, - \sin \theta) (\dot{\theta})^2 + r (-\sin \theta , \cos \theta ) \ddot{\theta}

The force acting on the particle is F = G M 1 M 2 r 2 ( cos θ , sin θ ) = M 2 r ¨ \vec{F} = \dfrac{-G M_1 M_2}{r^2} (\cos \theta , \sin \theta) = M_2 \ddot{\vec{r}}

Substituting G = 1 , M 1 = M 2 = 1 G = 1 , M_1 = M_2 = 1 , this becomes, F = 1 r 2 ( cos θ , sin θ ) = r ¨ \vec{F} = \dfrac{-1}{r^2} (\cos \theta , \sin \theta) = \ddot{\vec{r}}

Equating radial and traverse components of the vectors, on both sides of the equation, we deduce that,

r ¨ r ( θ ˙ ) 2 = 1 r 2 ( 1 ) \ddot{r} - r (\dot{\theta})^2 = \dfrac{-1}{r^2} \hspace{20pt}(1)

and

2 r ˙ θ ˙ + r θ ¨ = 0 ( 2 ) 2 \dot{r} \dot{\theta} + r \ddot{\theta} = 0 \hspace{20pt} (2)

Multiplying the second equation by r r , we get,

2 r r ˙ θ ˙ + r 2 θ ¨ = 0 ( 3 ) 2 r \dot{r} \dot{\theta} + r^2 \ddot{\theta} = 0 \hspace{20pt} (3)

The left hand side is just the derivative of r 2 θ ˙ r^2 \dot{\theta} , therefore,

r 2 θ ˙ = K ( 4 ) r^2 \dot{\theta} = K \hspace{20pt}(4)

To determine K K , we use the initial conditions, we're given that r ( 0 ) = r 0 = 5 , θ ( 0 ) = θ 0 = tan 1 ( 1 2 ) π , r ˙ = ( v 0 , 0 ) r(0) = r_0 = \sqrt{5} , \theta(0) = \theta_0 = \tan^{-1}(\dfrac{1}{2}) - \pi , \dot{\vec{r} } = (v_0, 0) , Using the expression for velocity developed above, we have,

r ˙ = r ˙ ( cos θ , sin θ ) + r ( sin θ , cos θ ) θ ˙ \dot{\vec{r}} = \dot{r} (\cos \theta, \sin \theta) + r ( - \sin \theta, \cos \theta ) \dot{\theta}

so that, at the initial postion,

r ˙ 0 = ( v 0 , 0 ) ( cos θ 0 , sin θ 0 ) = 2 v 0 5 \dot{r}_0 = (v0, 0) \cdot (\cos \theta_0 , \sin \theta_0) = \dfrac{-2 v_0}{\sqrt{5}} and θ ˙ 0 = 1 r 0 ( v 0 , 0 ) ( sin θ 0 , cos θ 0 ) = v 0 5 \dot{\theta}_0 = \dfrac{1}{r_0} (v_0, 0) \cdot (-\sin \theta_0, \cos \theta_0 ) = \dfrac{v_0}{5}

Hence, K = r 0 2 θ ˙ 0 = v 0 K = r_0^2 \dot{\theta}_0 = v_0

Plugging in equation (4) into (1),

r ¨ K 2 r 3 = 1 r 2 ( 5 ) \ddot{r} - \dfrac{K^2}{r^3} = -\dfrac{1}{r^2} \hspace{20pt}(5)

By relating the time-derivative of r r to the θ \theta -derivative, equation (5) becomes,

K 2 ( r r 4 2 r 2 r 5 1 r 3 ) = 1 r 2 ( 6 ) K^2 ( \dfrac{ r''}{ r^4} - \dfrac{2 r'^2}{ r^5} - \dfrac{1 }{ r^3} ) = -\dfrac{1}{r^2}\hspace{20pt}(6)

where r = d r d θ r' = \dfrac{dr}{d\theta} and r = d 2 r d θ 2 r'' = \dfrac{d^2 r}{d\theta^2} .

Now, we will use the change of variables, u = 1 r u = \dfrac{1}{r} . This will change equation ( 6 ) (6) into,

K 2 ( u + u ) 1 = 0 ( 7 ) K^2 ( u'' + u ) - 1 = 0 \hspace{20pt}(7)

where u = d 2 u d θ 2 u'' = \dfrac{d^2 u}{d\theta^2} . Equation ( 7 ) (7) is a linear differential equation with constant coefficients. Dividing by K 2 K^2 ,

u + u 1 K 2 = 0 ( 8 ) u'' + u - \dfrac{1}{K^2} = 0 \hspace{20 pt} (8)

The solution of this differential equation is:

u ( θ ) = 1 K 2 + A cos ( θ θ 0 ) + B sin ( θ θ 0 ) u(\theta) = \dfrac{1}{K^2} + A \cos (\theta - \theta_0) + B \sin (\theta-\theta_0)

Since r ( 0 ) = r 0 = 5 r(0) = r_0 = \sqrt{5} , then , u ( 0 ) = 1 5 u(0) = \dfrac{1}{\sqrt{5}} , and therefore, A = 1 5 1 v 0 2 A = \dfrac{1}{\sqrt{5}}- \dfrac{1}{v_0^2} .

We also have u ( 0 ) = 1 r 0 2 r ˙ 0 θ ˙ 0 = 1 5 2 v 0 5 5 v 0 = 2 5 u'(0) = \dfrac{-1}{r_0^2} \cdot \dfrac{\dot{r}_0}{\dot{\theta}_0} = \dfrac{-1}{5} \cdot \dfrac{-2 v_0}{\sqrt{5}} \cdot \dfrac{5}{v_0} = \dfrac{2}{\sqrt{5}}

Hence, B = u ( 0 ) = 2 5 B = u'(0) = \dfrac{2}{\sqrt{5}} . And therefore,

u ( θ ) = 1 v 0 2 + ( 1 5 1 v 0 2 ) cos ( θ θ 0 ) + 2 5 sin ( θ θ 0 ) ( 9 ) u(\theta) = \dfrac{1}{v_0^2} + (\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{5}}- \dfrac{1}{v_0^2}) \cos(\theta - \theta_0) + \dfrac{2}{\sqrt{5}} \sin(\theta-\theta_0) \hspace{20pt} (9)

At the point ( 4 , 0 ) (4, 0) ( originally ( 4 , 1 ) (4, 1) ), θ = 0 \theta = 0 and r = 4 r = 4 , hence,

1 4 = 1 v 0 2 + ( 1 5 1 v 0 2 ) cos ( θ 0 ) + 2 5 sin ( θ 0 ) ( 10 ) \dfrac{1}{4} = \dfrac{1}{v_0^2} + (\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{5}}- \dfrac{1}{v_0^2}) \cos( - \theta_0) + \dfrac{2}{\sqrt{5}} \sin(-\theta_0) \hspace{20pt} (10)

Upon subtituting θ 0 \theta_0 , equation ( 10 ) (10) becomes,

1 4 = 1 v 0 2 ( 1 + 2 5 ) ( 11 ) \dfrac{1}{4} = \dfrac{1}{v_0^2} ( 1 + \dfrac{2}{\sqrt{5}} ) \hspace{20pt} (11)

which solves to,

v 0 = 2 1 + 2 5 2.75276384 v_0 = \displaystyle 2 \sqrt{ 1 + \dfrac{2}{\sqrt{5}}} \approx \boxed{2.75276384}

Finally, we note that the trajectory taken by the moving particle is actually a branch of a hyperbola, and not an ellipse.

@Hosam Hajjir What the hell?????
How you know this much.
You are really a Brilliant guy.

Talulah Riley - 3 days, 2 hours ago

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Thanks for the compliment. It seems you're also a brilliant guy. It takes one to appreciate another.

Hosam Hajjir - 2 days, 4 hours ago

@Hosam Hajjir How did you have learned this complicated things ?

Talulah Riley - 3 days, 2 hours ago

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I learned this during my university study, which was a very long time ago.

Hosam Hajjir - 2 days, 4 hours ago

@Hosam Hajjir Your solution is wonderful and perfect

Talulah Riley - 3 days, 2 hours ago

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Thank you @Talulah Riley , I am glad you liked the solution.

Hosam Hajjir - 2 days, 4 hours ago
Karan Chatrath
Jun 8, 2021

Used a completely numerical approach for this one. I treated v o v_o as a tuning parameter and varied it till the final coordinates of the moving mass are ( 4 , 1 ) (4,1) . I did this in the following way:

  • Set v o v_o to some arbitrary positive real number.
  • Ran a simulation until the Y coordinate becomes +1.
  • Checked how close the corresponding X coordinate is to the value of +4.
  • This process was repeated till the final X coordinate was sufficiently close to +4.

Simulation code attached below:

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clear all
clc

% vo used as a tuning parameter:
vo      = 2.7527596;

% Initial conditions:
x(1)    = -2;
y(1)    = 0;
dx(1)   = vo;
dy(1)   = 0;

% Time step and initialisation:
dt      = 1e-6;
t(1)    = 0;
k       = 1;

% Position vector of fixed mass:
rp      = [0;1;0];

% Run loop till y coordinate of moving mass becomes +1:
while y(k) <= 1

    % Position vector of moving mass:
    r          = [x(k);y(k);0];

    % Newton's law of gravitaion:
    Fg         = (rp - r)/(norm(rp - r)^3);

    % Newton's second law of motion:
    ddx        = Fg(1);
    ddy        = Fg(2);

    % Numerical integration for velocity components: Explicit Euler
    dx(k+1)    = dx(k) + dt*ddx;
    dy(k+1)    = dy(k) + dt*ddy;

    % Numerical integration for position components: Implicit Euler
    x(k+1)     = x(k) + dx(k+1)*dt;
    y(k+1)     = y(k) + dy(k+1)*dt;

    % Time advancement:
    t(k+1)     = t(k) + dt;

    % Index advancement:
    k          = k + 1;

end

% Tune vo till the final x-coordinate of the mass is +4:
X_END      = x(end);

% X_END     = 3.999988696701238
% vo        = 2.7527596

I did this the exact same way. I was thinking about how this problem might rank in terms of complexity class (P, NP, etc.). It doesn't seem to be easy to solve or easy to check (neither P nor NP). If somebody gave you a candidate value for v 0 v_0 , you would still have to run the simulation to check it.

Steven Chase - 3 days, 16 hours ago

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I do not understand complexity theory much but I agree that the complexity required to solve is the same as that required to check for this particular case. I think I am making a correct inference here. Could you point me to some reading material on this subject that you found useful?

Karan Chatrath - 3 days, 16 hours ago

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I like this lecture on the subject. 34 minutes in and it is spelled out explicitly. But the whole thing is worth watching

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=414LRzIA9Tw&t=2924s

Steven Chase - 3 days, 16 hours ago

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@Steven Chase Thank you for sharing

Karan Chatrath - 3 days, 16 hours ago

@Karan Chatrath Wahh! Wahh! Kya solution hai Karan ji . Aap ise anayltically solve karke batye na , please .
अग्रिम में धन्यवाद

Talulah Riley - 3 days, 16 hours ago

@Karan Chatrath this is for the reported problem ,the cylinder is kept in vertical plane and the cylinder is rotating about the axis which is perpendicular to that vertical plane .The situation is simple.,not that much complicated the you way you are thinking.

Talulah Riley - 3 days, 16 hours ago

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Okay, this helps. I have just solved the problem but I had to guess the initial position at which the particle loses contact with the cylinder. I think that needs to be specified in the problem statement.

Karan Chatrath - 3 days, 16 hours ago

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@Karan Chatrath Uski koi jarurat nhi hai. Uske independent hai.

Talulah Riley - 3 days, 16 hours ago

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@Talulah Riley Then maybe my solution is wrong. I'll think about it later.

Karan Chatrath - 3 days, 16 hours ago

@Talulah Riley I re checked my solution both analytically and numerically. The answer, according to me, does depend on the position where the particle loses contact. I think your problem statement needs further review. You may post a solution for me to see.

Karan Chatrath - 3 days, 10 hours ago

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@Karan Chatrath @Karan Chatrath The solution is up now.

Talulah Riley - 3 days, 9 hours ago

@Karan Chatrath @Steven Chase I have uploaded a new problem right now .
Have a look on that.

Talulah Riley - 3 days, 16 hours ago

@Karan Chatrath I have so many questions where should I upload them.?
I want solutions of those questions. We should find a alternative.

Talulah Riley - 2 days, 8 hours ago

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