Ordered Pairs

Find the number of ordered pairs of integers ( m , n ) (m,n) that satisfy

m 12 = 12 n . \frac{m}{12}=\frac{12}{n}.


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12 15 10 30

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4 solutions

Sandeep Bhardwaj
Aug 27, 2014

As given m 12 = 12 n \large \frac{m}{12}=\frac{12}{n}

therefore m × n = 144 m \times n = 144

So here we need to find the total divisors of 144,

hence 144 = 2 4 . 3 2 \large 144 =2^{4}.3^{2}

So total no of divisors of 144 = ( 4 + 1 ) ( 2 + 1 ) = 15 = (4+1)(2+1) = 15

But the negative pairs are also possible , so the no of ordered pairs = 15+ 15 = 30 \large \boxed{30} .

my answer was 15. i never thought that the given are integers... i ignored the negative.. haha

John Aries Sarza - 6 years, 9 months ago

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i did the same...forgot the negative integers.....

Mehul Arora - 6 years, 6 months ago

the question should have asked for natural solutions... By the way cant we use this formula in the end..... C r 1 n + r 1 { C }_{ r-1 }^{ n+r-1 }

manish bhargao - 6 years, 3 months ago

Same here hahaha

rahul kharbanda - 5 years, 9 months ago

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@rahul kharbanda Are you Aryan's brother?

Mehul Arora - 5 years, 9 months ago

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@Mehul Arora who aryan??

rahul kharbanda - 5 years, 9 months ago

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@Rahul Kharbanda Never mind :P I have a friend who's name is Aryan Kharbanda. His brother's name is also Rahul Kharbanda.

Mehul Arora - 5 years, 9 months ago

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@Mehul Arora no actually i am his cousin brother his real brother's name is akshay kharbanda

rahul kharbanda - 5 years, 9 months ago

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@Rahul Kharbanda Ohh :P See? My guess was right xD

Mehul Arora - 5 years, 9 months ago

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@Mehul Arora by the way how do you know him??

rahul kharbanda - 5 years, 9 months ago

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@Rahul Kharbanda Uhmm. He and I are in the same batch at FIITJEE :)

Mehul Arora - 5 years, 9 months ago

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@Mehul Arora ohh!! good:)

rahul kharbanda - 5 years, 9 months ago

Integers include negative numbers too... :P

Sandeep Bhardwaj - 6 years, 9 months ago

sir why is it so that

144 = 2 4 . 3 2 144 = 2^{4} . 3^{2}

has (4 + 1)( 2 + 1) divisors

what is the concept behind this

U Z - 6 years, 7 months ago

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consider a number n n .. we can write it in it's prime factorisation form

n = p 1 a 1 p 2 a 2 p 3 a 3 . . . . . . . . . . . p n a n n=p_1^{a_1}p_2^{a_2}p_3^{a_3}...........p_n^{a_n}

where p 1 , p 2 , p 3 . . . . . p n p_1,p_2,p_3.....p_n are distinct primes.

then, any divisor, d d , of n n must be of the form

d = p 1 b 1 p 2 b 2 p 3 b 3 . . . . . . . . . . . p k b k d=p_1^{b_1}p_2^{b_2}p_3^{b_3}...........p_k^{b_k}

where 0 b i a i 0≤b_i≤a_i for i = 1 , 2 , 3 , . . . . . . k i=1 ,2 ,3 ,......k

Now, consider the product:

Q = ( 1 + p 1 + p 1 2 + p 1 3 + . . . . . . p 1 a 1 ) ( 1 + p 2 + p 2 2 + . . . . . . . . . p 2 a 2 ) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ( 1 + p k + p k 2 + . . . . . . . . . . p k a k ) Q=(1+p_1+p_1^{2}+p_1^{3}+......p_1^{a_1})(1+p_2+p_2^{2}+.........p_2^{a_2}).................(1+p_k+p_k^{2}+..........p_k^{a_k})

A typical term of this product is x = p 1 b 1 . . . . . . p k b k x=p_1^{b_1}......p_k^{b_k} for 0 b i a i 0≤b_i≤a_i

Therefore, the number of positive divisors of n n is the number of terms in the product Q Q and since, in each bracket in the product, there are ( a i + 1 ) (a_i+1) terms, the total number of terms are:

( a 1 + 1 ) ( a 2 + 1 ) ( a 3 + 1 ) . . . . . . . . . ( a n + 1 ) (a_1+1)(a_2+1)(a_3+1).........(a_n+1)


I think you knew this already, didn't you? :P

nevermind, i brushed up on my latex :P

Aritra Jana - 6 years, 7 months ago

seriously negative too???!?!?

Christopher Pinto - 6 years, 9 months ago

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integers contain positives, negatives and neutral

Figel Ilham - 6 years, 3 months ago

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What about acidic? :P

Prasun Biswas - 6 years, 3 months ago

missed out the negative idea! dam it!

Kinshu Kr. - 6 years, 8 months ago

Oh god!!! I forgot the negative cases. Well done!

swapnil rajawat - 6 years, 5 months ago

this was a kvpy question

Guru Prasaadh - 6 years, 5 months ago

damn it !! missed out negatives... :p

Nihar Ranjan Sahoo - 5 years, 11 months ago
Victor Loh
Aug 29, 2014

m 12 = 12 n \frac{m}{12}=\frac{12}{n} implies that m n = 144 mn=144 . Since 144 = 2 4 × 3 2 144=2^4 \times 3^2 , the number of ordered pairs ( m , n ) (m,n) is simply 2 × ( 5 × 3 ) = 30 2 \times (5 \times 3)=\boxed{30} as we also have to consider the negative cases.

pls tell me i am unable to get it that how ha sit become 5 * 3=15...?

Amit Gupta - 6 years, 9 months ago

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Euclid-Euler theorem

William Isoroku - 6 years, 9 months ago

this is from kvpy exam

phani raj - 6 years, 9 months ago
U Z
Oct 19, 2014

we get

m . n = 144 m . n =144

144 = 2 4 . 3 2 144 = 2^{4} . 3^{2}

we have six numbers

thus applying fundamental principle of counting

m can be filled with 6 digits and n with 5 thus 30

here we will ignore the case of repetation if we consider the repetation case than we would not get 144 as the product

Akshay Mujumdar
Sep 5, 2014

I didnt think of d negative part....... But i still got d answer ryt as i thoght dat we hav total 15 divisors of 144..... Now since d ordered pair is given a name (m,n), (a,b) and (b,a) both hav to be considered..... For eg, (16,9) and (9,16) are both acceptable....... So shouldnt d answer be 60, including d negative integers??????

No. Each positive divisor of 144 is a solution for m . Given m , n is determined. So there are 15 solutions in positive numbers and 15 in negative.

Harvey Rabbit - 6 years, 9 months ago

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