Parallel and perpendicular

Algebra Level 5

{ x 2 + y 2 = 1 x 2 2 x y + 3 y 2 = k \begin{cases} x^2+y^2=1 \\ x^2-2xy+3y^2 =k\end{cases}

The above two curves touch each other at k = a k=a and k = b k=b where a > b a>b . Find the value of 1000 a b \left \lfloor{\dfrac{1000a}{b}}\right\rfloor .


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The answer is 5828.

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4 solutions

Otto Bretscher
Nov 22, 2015

The symmetric matrix of the quadratic form q ( x , y ) = x 2 2 x y + 3 y 2 q(x,y)=x^2-2xy+3y^2 is A = [ 1 1 1 3 ] A=\begin{bmatrix}1&-1\\-1&3\end{bmatrix} with the eigenvalues a = 2 + 2 a=2+\sqrt{2} and b = 2 2 b=2-\sqrt{2} . Now a b = 3 + 2 2 5.828 \frac{a}{b}=3+2\sqrt{2}\approx 5.828 . The answer we seek is 5828 \boxed{5828}

Chan Lye Lee
Nov 24, 2015

Solve the simultaneous equations, x 2 2 x y + 3 y 2 = k ( x 2 + y 2 ) x^2-2xy+3y^2=k(x^2+y^2) which we can rewrite it as a quadratic in x x : ( 1 k ) x 2 2 x y + ( 3 k ) y 2 = 0 (1-k)x^2-2xy+(3-k)y^2=0 . As the two curves touch each other, the discriminant is zero. Hence 4 y 2 4 ( 1 k ) ( 3 k ) y 2 = 0 4y^2-4(1-k)(3-k)y^2=0 which means that k 2 4 k + 2 = 0 k^2-4k+2=0 and hence k = 2 ± 2 k=2\pm\sqrt{2} . Thus a b = 2 + 2 2 2 5.828 \frac{a}{b}=\frac{2+\sqrt{2}}{2-\sqrt{2}}\approx 5.828 . So 1000 a b = 5828 \left \lfloor{\dfrac{1000a}{b}}\right\rfloor=5828

Why should the discriminant be zero?

Saurabh Chaturvedi - 5 years, 6 months ago

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As the two curve TOUCH each other, meaning that there having equal real roots for the equation and hence the discriminant is zero.

Chan Lye Lee - 5 years, 6 months ago

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But they touch each other at two different points.

Saurabh Chaturvedi - 5 years, 6 months ago

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@Saurabh Chaturvedi For each k k , there is a point.

Chan Lye Lee - 5 years, 6 months ago

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@Chan Lye Lee But the figure shows 2 points of intersection for each k.

Saurabh Chaturvedi - 5 years, 6 months ago

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@Saurabh Chaturvedi Sorry for previous respond. My mistake.

Chan Lye Lee - 5 years, 6 months ago
Aryan Goyat
Mar 11, 2016

Any point lying on the circle would be of form * ( c o s ( x ) , s i n ( x ) ) (cos(x),sin(x)) * so just satisfy the point in equation 2 we get

s i n ( 2 x ) + c o s ( 2 x ) = 2 k sin(2x)+cos(2x)=2-k we want now it to be satisfied for only 2 points. therefore applying boundary line condition

2 k = s q r t ( 2 ) 2-k=sqrt(2)

2 k = s q r t ( 2 ) 2-k=-sqrt(2)

k = 2 s q r t ( 2 ) k=2-sqrt(2)

k = 2 + s q r t ( 2 ) k=2+sqrt(2)

well simplest and most elegant.Exactly what i thought of.Just the fact that they put gint function everywhere gets my answer wrong.

Ayush Agarwal - 5 years, 3 months ago
Bill Bell
Nov 23, 2015

Like Dr Bretscher's, but using a symbolic algebra system. He reminded me of theory that I hadn't seen since the 70's when I studied principal components, just a day or two ago.

Pls mention whether it is GIF or LIF.I got the right answer but......

bhavay kukreja - 5 years, 6 months ago

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GIF or LIF?

Bill Bell - 5 years, 6 months ago

\lfloor \cdot \rfloor is the standard notation for Greatest Integer Function.

\lceil \cdot \rceil is the standard notation for Least Integer Function.

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 6 months ago

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