Parellelogram Geometric Progression

Geometry Level 3

Two segments parallel to the sides of a parallelogram are drawn through a point on the parallelogram's diagonal.

The area of the entire figure is 2009, and the areas of the red, blue, and green sections are distinct integers which form a geometric progression in that order.

What is the maximum possible area of the red section?

Note: The diagram is not drawn to scale.


The answer is 1476.

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10 solutions

Zain Majumder
Jul 23, 2018

The red and green parallelograms are similar since they are each made of two congruent triangles, and a red triangle is similar to a green triangle. Therefore, if we let the base of the red parallelogram be b b , and its height be h h , then the base and height of the green parallelogram are b k bk and h k hk for some number k k .

Now we can calculate the areas of each colored region, so the sequence b h bh , b h k bhk , b h k 2 bhk^2 forms a geometric progression. This means that k k is the common ratio for this progression.

The base of the entire parallelogram is b + b k = b ( k + 1 ) b+bk = b(k+1) , and the height is h + h k = h ( k + 1 ) h+hk = h(k+1) . Therefore, its area is b h ( k + 1 ) 2 = 2009 b h = 2009 ( k + 1 ) 2 bh(k+1)^2 = 2009 \implies bh = \frac{2009}{(k+1)^2} . Since b h bh and b h k bhk are both integers, k k must be a rational number in the form x y \frac{x}{y} , where x x and y y are positive integers.

b h = 2009 ( x y + 1 ) 2 = 2009 ( x + y ) 2 y 2 = 2009 y 2 ( x + y ) 2 bh = \frac{2009}{(\frac{x}{y}+1)^2} = \frac{2009}{\frac{(x+y)^2}{y^2}} = \frac{2009y^2}{(x+y)^2}

2009 = 7 2 41 2009 = 7^2*41 , and x + y 2 x+y \ge 2 . Therefore, for this fraction to be an integer, x + y = 7 x+y = 7 . We have b h = 2009 y 2 7 2 = 41 y 2 bh = \frac{2009y^2}{7^2} = 41y^2 . The largest value of y y is 6 6 , so the maximum value of b h bh is 41 36 = 1476 41*36 = \boxed{1476} .

Note: There is no way to get the fraction to be a multiple of 49 49 . For this to happen, y 2 y^2 must contain a factor of 41 41 , so y 2 = 41 n y^2 = 41n for some integer n n . ( x + y ) 2 > 41 n (x+y)^2 > 41n , so x x must be chosen to make ( x + y ) 2 (x+y)^2 be a multiple of 41 n 41n , which means there is now an extra factor in the denominator. Therefore there is no way to make this work.

I initially assumed that "in order" meant that the red area was the smallest. When it dawned on me that was not what was stated, I was able to get the correct answer.

Steven Perkins - 2 years, 10 months ago

The “in that order” descriptor is very misleading. What exactly could it imply besides the red area being the smallest?

Emily Falces - 2 years, 10 months ago

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It seems to mean that the blue area comes in the middle of the other two.

Steven Perkins - 2 years, 10 months ago

I was just as confused. I knew I had gotten the right answer and kept double checking, but it turns out that the red triangles didn't have the smallest areas as depicted in the image.

Crystal Chan - 2 years, 10 months ago

Isn't it by definition a geometric progression in that order, due to the construction? I also had difficulty with this phrase, and initially assumed the intended solution was red:blue:green = 369:492:656.

Of course the factor in a geometric progression can indeed be smaller than 1, which resulted in the areas red:blue:green = 1476:246:41.

I find the whole "geometric progression in that order" phrase confusing, unless you can give a reason why it is necessary. As far as I can see the blue area is always the geometric mean of the other areas, which apparently is the thing you wanted to say with the in that order part...

Roland van Vliembergen - 2 years, 10 months ago

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Honestly, I didn't create this problem. It was just in a book I had. That confused me as well, and since my brain skipped over the word integer, I was completely stuck for a while. It could either be a red herring or a hint to solve the problem. Either way, the point is that you have to prove that the blue area is the geometric mean of the other two before continuing.

A lot of people are complaining about the "in that order" phrasing, so I might delete it.

Zain Majumder - 2 years, 10 months ago

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I didn't find it confusing. When we come across problems other than in refined text books, the problem is rarely precisely described. Here all you need is the parallelogram, the parallel lines, the integer restriction and the area total to define the problem. Telling us the areas are in a geometric series is nice, even better that they are consecutive terms in one, but this is a consequence of the construction.

You don't really have a responsibility to only put clean questions up. If people are complaining about the assumptions they themselves made, that should be a lesson for them to learn. Reducing assumptions is critical to mathematical thinking.

Chris Maitland - 2 years, 10 months ago

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@Chris Maitland So what do the words "in that order" actually mean, when there is (apparently) a clear indication of the relative sizes of the segments in the diagram (the most famous "not to scale" diagram of them all, H C Beck's London Underground creation which is the model for maps of urban public transport systems worldwide, still has the central area smaller than the outlying area, just not as much smaller as it actually is)? I do not expect diagrams to be in the correct absolute proportions, but keeping the relative proportions correct (i.e the largest single area in reality is also the largest single area in the diagram) is surely a must. I am not a habitual complainer (as I mentioned in my earlier and as yet unaddressed comment this is the first brilliant.org problem about which I have seen fit to complain) so the fact that I am on the side of the complainers should be seen as fairly damning of the problem.

Thomas Sutcliffe - 2 years, 10 months ago

I'm new here, but this was very confusing. The depicted construction always leads to a geometric progression, thus the "in that order" precision should mean red is smallest - it isn't. At no point was it specified to only use integers.

Stéphane Périsset - 2 years, 10 months ago

I agree with those complaining about this problem. The picture shows the red section as the smallest, with blue next smallest and green largest, and the only geometric progression that can link them is that each is one third of the area of the other (green = 3 x blue = 3 x red). The "in that order" that is included in the setting of the question further reinforces this view. Given the answer that you were looking for the diagram is an absolute disgrace - "not to scale" is fine, but even so the relative sizes of the segments should be in proper order - the segment that is largest should appear so in the diagram. Please note that this is the first time since I started solving these problems that I have formally complained about one.

Thomas Sutcliffe - 2 years, 10 months ago

I totally agree with those comments. The words "in that order" mean that the red area is the smallest. In fact my solution was 41. You need to reformulated the quiz because this way it is not a mathematical quiz.

Francesco Ruggiero - 2 years, 10 months ago

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It doesn't mean that. It simply means that red comes first in the geometric progression, blue second, and green third.

Nate Jellis - 2 years, 10 months ago
Chris Maitland
Aug 7, 2018

Let the green area be a positive integer a a . To maximise the red area, we'll need to minimise a a with the restriction that the coloured areas are distinct positive integers that sum to 2009.

The the total area is a ( 1 + 2 r + r 2 ) = a ( 1 + r ) 2 = 2009 = 7 2 41 a(1+2r+r^2)=a(1+r)^2=2009=7^2\cdot 41 .

This means r = 7 41 a 1 r=7\sqrt{\frac{41}{a}}-1 and so a r = 7 a 41 a a = 7 41 a a ar=7a\sqrt{\frac{41}{a}}-a=7\sqrt{41a}-a .

As a a is a positive integer and a r ar is a distinct positive integer, a a must contain 41 41 as a prime factor.

So the minimum solution has a = 41 a=41 and 1 + r = 7 1+r=7 , meaning r = 6 r=6 . Therefore, the red area is a r 2 = 41 36 = 1476 ar^2=41\cdot 36=1476 .

Good solution, except a = 41 a =41 isnt the only solution for a a . a a can be any value less than 2009 2009 which is 41 41 times a perfect square.

Zain Majumder - 2 years, 10 months ago

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@Zain Majumder has it on the nose: a is any 41 y 2 < 2009 41 \cdot y^2 < 2009 . Specifically, if y is an integer, y r y \cdot r is an integer, and y ( 1 + r ) = 7 y \cdot (1+r) = 7 . Another way to think of it, is to imagine that a is the red area (the way I solved it). Solutions include: ( y , r ) = ( 1 , 6 ) , ( 2 , 5 2 ) , ( 3 , 4 3 ) , ( 4 , 3 4 ) , ( 5 , 2 5 ) , ( 6 , 1 6 ) (y,r) = (1,6), (2, \frac 52), (3, \frac 43), (4, \frac 34), (5, \frac 25), (6, \frac 16)

Black Mephistopheles - 2 years, 10 months ago

Ah! You're correct! But I want to minimise a a meaning that perfect square is 1 1 . I've edited the answer to include this.

Chris Maitland - 2 years, 10 months ago

General solution

The sides of the parallelogram are divided in the same ratio a : b a:b (assume no common factors). Thus the areas have ratios red : blue : green = c a 2 : c a b : c b 2 \text{red} : \text{blue} : \text{green} = ca^2 : cab : cb^2 for some constant c c . If a , b , c 0 a,b,c \not= 0 and a b a \not= b this is a geometric progression with factor b / a b/a .

The total area of the parallelogram is A = c ( a + b ) 2 A = c(a+b)^2 . In order to have integer areas, we need a , b , c a,b,c to be integers. Thus we find the following recipe for solving the problem:

  • Factor the given area A A in the form A = c x 2 A = cx^2 , with x x as large as possible.

  • Let a = x 1 a = x - 1 and b = 1 b = 1 .

  • Then the red area is c a 2 ca^2 .

In this case, A = 2009 = 41 7 2 A = 2009 = 41\cdot 7^2 , so that x = 7 x = 7 , a = 6 a = 6 , b = 1 b = 1 , c = 41 c = 41 , and red = c a 2 = 41 6 2 = 1476. \text{red} = ca^2 = 41\cdot 6^2 = 1476.

Bugger! Same reasoning but I thought that "in that order" meant that the red area should be the smallest of the three. Then I got 2009*(3/7)^2 = 369 ... Obviously not accepted ;-(

Pierre Carrette - 2 years, 10 months ago

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That was what I did at first, too.

Arjen Vreugdenhil - 2 years, 10 months ago
Jacopo Piccione
Aug 9, 2018

Let red area be A 1 A_1 , blue area A 2 A_2 , green area A 3 A_3 . We know that:

A 1 A 2 = A 2 A 3 A 2 = A 1 A 3 \frac{A_1}{A_2}=\frac{A_2}{A_3} \Rightarrow A_2=\sqrt{A_1A_3}

And also:

A 1 + 2 A 2 + A 3 = 2009 A_1+2A_2+A_3=2009

Therefore:

A 1 + 2 A 1 A 3 + A 3 = 2009 A_1+2\sqrt{A_1A_3}+A_3=2009

( A 1 + A 3 ) 2 = 2009 (\sqrt{A_1}+\sqrt{A_3})^2=2009

A 1 + A 3 = 7 41 \sqrt{A_1}+\sqrt{A_3}=7\sqrt{41}

So A 1 A_1 and A 3 A_3 must be multiples of 41 41 , and, since A 3 A_3 can't be zero, the maximum of A 1 A_1 must be 1476 = 36 41 \boxed{1476}=36\cdot41 , in order to have:

6 41 + 41 = 7 41 6\sqrt{41}+\sqrt{41}=7\sqrt{41}

Very neat answer!

Chris Maitland - 2 years, 10 months ago

Great answer!

Zain Majumder - 2 years, 10 months ago

Since the diagonal divides the big, red and green parallelograms into halves, it is obvious that the area of the blue parallelogram is same as that of the white parallelogram.

Let the height of the big parallelogram be h h and that of the red parallelogram be x h xh , where x < 1 x < 1 . Since the shapes of the red and green parallelograms are similar to that of the big parallelogram their areas are directly proportional to their heights. That is:

{ A b i g = 2009 A r e d = 2009 x 2 A g r e e n = 2009 ( 1 x ) 2 A b l u e = 2009 2 ( 1 x 2 ( 1 x ) 2 ) = 2009 x ( 1 x ) \begin{cases} A_{big} = 2009 \\ A_{\color{#D61F06}red} = 2009x^2 \\ A_{\color{#20A900}green} = 2009(1-x)^2 \\ A_{\color{#3D99F6}blue} = \frac {2009}2 \left(1-x^2 - (1-x)^2\right) = 2009x(1-x) \end{cases}

Note that A b l u e A r e d = A g r e e n A b l u e = 1 x x \dfrac {A_{\color{#3D99F6}blue}}{A_{\color{#D61F06}red}} = \dfrac {A_{\color{#20A900}green}}{A_{\color{#3D99F6}blue}} = \dfrac {1-x}x , the common ratio.

We note that 2009 = 7 2 × 41 2009 = 7^2 \times 41 . For A r e d = 2009 x 2 A_{\color{#D61F06}red} = 2009x^2 to be an integer, x = n 7 < 1 x = \frac n7 < 1 , where n n is a positive integer. Then we have:

{ A r e d = 41 n 2 A g r e e n = 41 ( 7 x ) 2 A b l u e = 41 n ( 7 n ) \begin{cases} A_{\color{#D61F06}red} = 41n^2 \\ A_{\color{#20A900}green} = 41(7-x)^2 \\ A_{\color{#3D99F6}blue} = 41n(7-n) \end{cases} , which are all integers.

We note that when n = 7 n=7 , A r e d = 2009 = A b i g A_{\color{#D61F06}red} =2009= A_{big} and A g r e e n = A b l u e = 0 A_{\color{#20A900}green} = A_{\color{#3D99F6}blue} = 0 . Therefore, A r e d A_{\color{#D61F06}red} is maximum when n = 6 n=6 ; that is max ( A r e d ) = 41 × 6 2 = 1476 \max(A_{\color{#D61F06}red}) = 41\times 6^2 = \boxed{1476}

Also remember that all the possible values of A r e d A_{\color{#D61F06}red} are when x = n 7 x = \frac{n}{7} for n { 1 , 2 , 3 , . . . 6 } n \in \{1, 2, 3, ... 6\} . In retrospect, I could have asked for the second-largest value of A r e d A_{\color{#D61F06}red} to make the problem a bit trickier!

Zain Majumder - 2 years, 10 months ago

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Thanks, I failed to see that. I will change my solution.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 2 years, 10 months ago
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Jul 31, 2018

Ryan Chatterjee
Aug 10, 2018

Because the figure isn't drawn to scale, there is no reason that the red area must be smaller than the blue area, which is our key to solving the problem. Say the area of the red section is equal to a, and the ratio of the blue section's area to the red section's area is equal to d. Because the areas are in a geometric progression, we must have a + a d + a d 2 + a d = 2009 a + a d + a d^2 + ad = 2009 . Note that the lefthand side is equal to a ( d + 1 ) 2 a (d+1)^2 , so a = 2009 ( d + 1 ) 2 a = \frac{2009}{(d+1)^2} , and because a is an integer, the expression on the right-hand side must also be an integer. 2009 = 41 49 = 41 7 2 2009 = 41*49 = 41 * 7^2 , so we must have d + 1 = 7 n d+1 = \frac{7}{n} for some integer n, and thus a = 41 n 2 a = 41 n^2 . Because a < 2009 a<2009 , n < 7 n<7 , and the value n = 6 n=6 maximizes a. So a = 41 36 = 1476 a = 41 * 36 = 1476 .

Volker Schlaak
Aug 8, 2018

R:=red area, B:=blue area, G:=green area. r is the common ratio. R,B,G are integers. R, B and G form a geometric progression, so: B = r R, G = r B = r^2 R. The area of the entire figure is 2009 = R + 2 B + G = R + 2 r R + r^2 R = R (1 + 2 r + r^2).

The primes of 2009 are: 7 and 41. If If you try R = 7 you get: 1 + 2 r + r^2 = 2009 / 7 = 287. If you transform the equation you get: 1 + 2 r + r^2 = (r+1)^2 = 287. So r = 15,941... That doesn't work because r has to be an integer.

Do the same with R = 41 and you get (r+1)^2 = 2009 / 41 = 49. So r = 6. Now R = 41, B = 41 * 6 = 246 and G = 246 * 6 = 1476.

To answer the question you have to switch the green area an the red area and you see that the maximum possible area of the red (or the green) section is 1476 .

You've started with an argument equivalent to "an integer divided by an integer is another integer". This isn't true and r r could be a rational number.

You've cleverly used symmetry in your argument but this should have shown you your mistake! 1476 is not a factor of 2009.

Don't worry. I'm not judging. I made the exact same mistake and had to edit my answer after someone pointed it out to me.

Chris Maitland - 2 years, 10 months ago

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Hi Chris, you are right. But "Hence r is an integer." is not necessary for the proof and I correct it. If you think of R<B<G then R is a factor of 2009. If you switch R and G then R is not a factor. So thank you for your comment! KR Volker

Volker Schlaak - 2 years, 10 months ago
Klumb Dolt
Aug 8, 2018

Let r, g, b be the area of the colored shapes, and k be the constant in the geometric progression.

then we easily get these equations:

r+2b+g=2009

r = kb =kkg

and thus when we substitute

kkg+2kg+g=2009=g(kk+2k+1) <=>2009/(kk+2k+1)=g

we know g is an integer and thus (kk+2k+1) must be a factor of 2009:

2009

287

49

41

7

1

We want r to be the biggest so we brute force these value to find a positive rational as solution to (kk+2k+1)={factor} where 2009k/{factor}=b is an integer and 2009kk/{factor}=r is an integer (if there were multiple solutions take the one which yield the biggest r).

so we find the solution {factor} = 49, k=6, g=41, b=246 and finally r = 1476

The matematics should be elegant and simple. Your explanation is the most elegant and simple by so far.

Bozhil Bozhil - 2 years, 10 months ago
Max Weinstein
Aug 7, 2018

Let the red, blue, and green areas be r , b , g r,b,g , respectively. They are in a geometric progression in that order, but, because we are maximizing r r , that progression will be decreasing. To make things easier, let's reverse the order of the geometric progression, so that we have r = g k 2 , b = g k r=gk^2,b=gk , for some k > 1 k>1 . Note that, because the three areas are integers, k k is rational.

Also, note that the white area and the blue area are equal, so the total area of the parallelogram (which is 2009) can be written as 2009 = r + 2 b + g = g k 2 + 2 g k + g = g ( k 2 + k + 1 ) = g ( k + 1 ) 2 2009 = r + 2b + g = gk^2 + 2gk + g = g(k^2+k+1) = g(k+1)^2 . Now we compare the factorization of 2009 = 41 7 2 2009=41\cdot7^2 with this final expression.

Non-Rigorous Way

In the factorization of 2009, there's an integer times a square, and in our expression, we also have that. Wouldn't it be pretty cool if those components lined up? Let's try it: g = 41 , ( k + 1 ) 2 = 7 2 k = 6 g=41 , (k+1)^2=7^2 \Rightarrow k=6 . If this is the green area, the red area is just g k 2 = 41 6 2 = 1476 gk^2=41\cdot6^2=1476 , which is the right answer.

Actual Justification

The method above doesn't show that 1476 is the maximum value of the red area, just that it's a possible value. To do that, we can go back to the equation 41 7 2 = g ( k + 1 ) 2 41\cdot7^2 = g(k+1)^2 and notice that, if we divide both sides by g, we get 41 7 2 g = ( k + 1 ) 2 k + 1 = 41 7 2 g = 7 41 g k + 1 7 = 41 g \frac{41\cdot7^2}{g} = (k+1)^2 \Rightarrow k+1 = \sqrt{\frac{41\cdot7^2}{g}} = 7\sqrt{\frac{41}{g}} \Rightarrow \frac{k+1}{7} = \sqrt{\frac{41}{g}}

Because k k is rational, so is the left side of the final expression. Therefore, the right side is also rational. But, the right side is only rational if and only if 41 g \frac{41}{g} is the square of a rational. However, because 41 is prime and g g is an integer, we must have g = 41 c 2 g=41\cdot c^2 for some positive integer c c . Plugging in, that gives k + 1 7 = 41 41 c 2 = 1 c \frac{k+1}{7} = \sqrt{\frac{41}{41\cdot c^2}} = \frac{1}{c} .

Rearranging, we have k = 7 c 1 k=\frac{7}{c}-1 . Remember, g = 41 c 2 g=41c^2 . So, plugging all this into r r , we get r = g k 2 = ( 41 c 2 ) ( 7 c 1 ) 2 = ( 41 c 2 ) ( c 2 ) ( 7 c ) 2 = 41 ( 7 c ) 2 r=gk^2=(41c^2)(\frac{7}{c}-1)^2 = (41c^2)(c^{-2})(7-c)^2=41(7-c)^2 . It is clear that the minimal value of c c gives the maximum value of r r . c c is a positive integer, so c = 1 r = 1476 c=1 \Rightarrow r=1476

As an aside, the reason we can assume c is also positive is because it's squared

Max Weinstein - 2 years, 10 months ago

Area(Total)=2009

define as follows from geometric progression (Ai=x n^(i-1), from i = 1 to 3) for some integer x and constant n. 1st Term: A(1)=Area(Red) = x 2nd Term: A(2)=Area(Blue) = n x 3rd Term: A(3)=Area(Green) = n^2*x

we know that the total area is the sum of its regions. A(T) = A(R)+2*A(B)+A(G)

substitute in the terms defined A(T) = x+n x+n^2 x+n*x 2009 = x(1+2n+n^2)

break down 2009 into its prime factors and group the terms to the same form. The integer solutions for x and n are now obvious. 41*7^2=x(n+1)^2 thus x=41 and (n+1)^2=7^2 -> n+1=7 -> n=6 we know this as the only other integer solution is x=2009,y=0.

this progression is increasing positively so x=41=A(R)=A(Rmin) is the minimum area satisfying the requirements. thus it is evident that A(Rmax) = A(G) = x n^2 = 6 6 41 = 1476 or similarly, A(Rmax)=A(T)-A(Rmin)-2 A(B)=2009-x-2nx=2009-41-2 6 41 = 1476

Michael Richardson - 2 years, 10 months ago

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n doesn't have to be an integer for it to be a geometric progression of integers. For instance, 16,20,25 form a geometric progression of integers with common ratio 5/4. Actually, the equation g(k+1)^2 = 2009 has two other solutions for k aside from k=1. Provided that k>1, you can derive that c (the positive integer factor in g that is squared) must be less than 3.5, so it can only be 1,2, or 3. In the maximum, it's 1. However, letting it equal 2 or 3 yields another valid, non-maximum, distribution of the areas. In those cases k would be 5/2 or 4/3, the red area would be 1025 or 656, respectively.

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