Parth's Parabola

Calculus Level 5

Consider the section S S of the parabola y = 2 x 2 y = 2 - x^{2} lying in the first quadrant. What is the minimum possible length L L of a line segment (in the first quadrant) that is tangent to S S and has one endpoint lying on the x x -axis and the other on the y y -axis?

If L = m + n n 128 L = \sqrt{\dfrac{m + n\sqrt{n}}{128}} where m , n m,n are positive integers with n n square-free, then find m + n . m + n.

Comments: Happy Birthday, Parth Lohomi . :)


The answer is 736.

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Let the point of tangency of the line with S S be P ( a , b ) . P(a,b). Then since d y d x = 2 x \frac{dy}{dx} = -2x the equation of the line will be

y b = 2 a ( x a ) y ( 2 a 2 ) = 2 a x + 2 a 2 y = a 2 2 a x + 2. y - b = -2a(x - a) \Longrightarrow y - (2 - a^{2}) = -2ax + 2a^{2} \Longrightarrow y = a^{2} - 2ax + 2.

Then for the x x -intercept we have 0 = a 2 2 a x + 2 x = a 2 + 2 2 a . 0 = a^{2} - 2ax + 2 \Longrightarrow x = \dfrac{a^{2} + 2}{2a}.

For the y y -intercept we have y = a 2 + 2. y = a^{2} + 2.

The length D D of the tangent line segment is then

D = ( a 2 + 2 4 a 2 + ( a 2 + 2 ) 2 = a 2 + 2 2 a 1 + 4 a 2 . D = \sqrt{\dfrac{(a^{2} + 2}{4a^{2}} + (a^{2} + 2)^{2}} = \dfrac{a^{2} + 2}{2a}\sqrt{1 + 4a^{2}}.

Differentiating D D with respect to a a and setting the result equal to 0 0 gives us

d D d a = 8 a 4 + a 2 2 2 a 2 1 + 4 a 2 = 0 8 a 4 + a 2 2 = 0 a 2 = 1 + 65 16 , \dfrac{dD}{da} = \dfrac{8a^{4} + a^{2} - 2}{2a^{2}\sqrt{1 + 4a^{2}}} = 0 \Longrightarrow 8a^{4} + a^{2} - 2 = 0 \Longrightarrow a^{2} = \dfrac{-1 + \sqrt{65}}{16},

where we took the positive root since we must have a 2 0. a^{2} \ge 0.

Thus a = 65 1 4 , a = \dfrac{\sqrt{\sqrt{65} - 1}}{4}, at which value we have

D m i n = L = 65 + 31 16 65 1 65 + 3 = 1026 + 62 65 17 + 65 64 = D_{min} = L = \dfrac{\sqrt{65} + 31}{16\sqrt{\sqrt{65} - 1}}\sqrt{\sqrt{65} + 3} = \dfrac{\sqrt{1026 + 62\sqrt{65}}\sqrt{17 + \sqrt{65}}}{64} =

21472 + 2080 65 64 = 671 + 65 65 128 . \dfrac{21472 + 2080\sqrt{65}}{64} = \sqrt{\dfrac{671 + 65\sqrt{65}}{128}}.

Thus m + n = 671 + 65 = 736 . m + n = 671 + 65 = \boxed{736}.

(Note that in simplifying the radical expression for L L I multiplied top and bottom by 65 + 1 \sqrt{\sqrt{65} + 1} and rewrote 65 + 31 \sqrt{65} + 31 as 1026 + 62 65 . \sqrt{1026 + 62\sqrt{65}}.

Also, since the tangent line segment can be made arbitrarily long by choosing the point P P arbitrarily close to the y y -axis, we can rest assured that the value found via the above method is a minimum.)

Nice question @Brian Charlesworth ! I too noticed the change of age in his algebra problem, but how did you figure out that today's his birthday? Or is this a belated birthday problem?

Happy Birthday @Parth Lohomi ! Two more years and you'll be 10000 years old! (I like to write down the age of a person in binary).

vishnu c - 6 years, 1 month ago

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Parth had mentioned a while ago in one of his posts that his birthday was May 15th, so I promised to dedicate a question to him on that day as a present. :)

Brian Charlesworth - 6 years, 1 month ago

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I'm always interested in conics, calculus and problems that involve both of these, but I'd have thought of something more along the line of cheryl's problem and I'd have somehow brought parth's birthday into it.

But maybe that's not a good idea cause he decided to post it instead of whispering :) Did you also consider doing a parth's birthday problem?

vishnu c - 6 years, 1 month ago

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@Vishnu C The main reason I chose this question as a present was because the first three letters of both his name and the curve in question are the same. :P (It was quite late at night when I posted it, so this was about as clever as I could be at the time. haha) But yes, bringing in May 15th somehow would have been a good idea. :)

Brian Charlesworth - 6 years, 1 month ago

Is there any other method sir??... I too have used AOD, but this approach is quite long :D

Kïñshük Sïñgh - 6 years, 1 month ago

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Yes, it is quite long, but I can't at the moment think of another way. I'll give it some more thought, but in the meantime, congrats for being the first one to solve the problem. :)

Brian Charlesworth - 6 years, 1 month ago

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Not much short but we can try this

D = ( 2 + a 2 ) 1 4 a 2 + 1 \displaystyle D = (2 + a^2)\sqrt{ \dfrac{1}{4a^2} + 1}

Now substitute a 2 x a^2 \mapsto x For easier differentiation and the result will be same.


Happy Birthday Parth :D

Krishna Sharma - 6 years, 1 month ago

Thanks sir :)

Kïñshük Sïñgh - 6 years, 1 month ago

Happy Birthday to @Parth Lohomi!

Kazem Sepehrinia - 6 years ago

Done the same way. Tough computation.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 6 years ago

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