A Pentagon, Hexagon And A Decagon Walk Into A Bar

Geometry Level 2

As shown in the image above, a pentagon, hexagon and decagon are inscribed in three congruent circles, and their endpoints are connected to form a triangle. If the radii of each of the circles is 1 1 and the area of the triangle formed by the three polygons can be written as a b c \frac{\sqrt{a}-b}{c} , where a a , b b and c c are coprime integers, what is a + b + c a+b+c ?


The answer is 10.

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Garrett Clarke
Aug 10, 2015

The formula for the length of a chord of a triangle is c = 2 r sin ( θ 2 ) c=2r\sin\left(\frac{\theta}{2}\right) . For an n-sided shape, we have θ = 2 π n \theta=\frac{2π}{n} . Therefore with r = 1 r=1 , our formula for the side length of an inscribed n-gon is s = 2 sin ( π n ) s=2\sin\left(\frac{π}{n}\right)

Side length of the pentagon: 2 sin ( π 5 ) 2\sin\left(\frac{π}{5}\right)

Side length of the hexagon: 2 sin ( π 6 ) 2\sin\left(\frac{π}{6}\right)

Side length of the decagon: 2 sin ( π 10 ) 2\sin\left(\frac{π}{10}\right)

A little known identity:

sin ( π 10 ) 2 + sin ( π 6 ) 2 = sin ( π 5 ) 2 \sin\left(\frac{π}{10}\right)^2+\sin\left(\frac{π}{6}\right)^2=\sin\left(\frac{π}{5}\right)^2

This makes the triangle a pythagorean triple, simplifying the problem greatly.

A = 1 2 b h A=\frac{1}{2}bh

A = 1 2 ( 2 sin ( π 6 ) ) ( 2 sin ( π 10 ) ) A=\frac{1}{2}\left(2\sin\left(\frac{π}{6}\right)\right)\left(2\sin\left(\frac{π}{10}\right)\right)

A = 1 2 ( 1 ) ( 5 1 2 ) A=\frac{1}{2}\left(1\right)\left(\frac{\sqrt{5}-1}{2}\right)

A = 5 1 4 A=\frac{\sqrt{5}-1}{4}

Therefore our final answer must be 5 + 1 + 4 = 10 5+1+4=\boxed{10} .

FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!1

How did you come up with that?

Pi Han Goh - 5 years, 10 months ago

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I actually did it the same way. I didn't really know the identity in that form, but I knew the sine of π / 5 \pi/5 and could thus find the sine of π / 10 \pi/10 .

Michael Lee - 5 years, 10 months ago

Lol it's quite simple really, I saw the identity and made the problem based off of the identity! Don't give me too much credit haha

Garrett Clarke - 5 years, 10 months ago

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Sorry when you wrote a little known identity what it was?

Andrea Bruno - 5 years, 10 months ago

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@Andrea Bruno I was referring to this identity:

sin ( π 10 ) 2 + sin ( π 6 ) 2 = sin ( π 5 ) 2 \sin\left(\frac{π}{10}\right)^2+\sin\left(\frac{π}{6}\right)^2=\sin\left(\frac{π}{5}\right)^2

Garrett Clarke - 5 years, 10 months ago

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@Garrett Clarke Yes but why is it an identity?

Andrea Bruno - 5 years, 10 months ago

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@Andrea Bruno In mathematics an identity is simply a statement of equality. If the left-hand side of the equation equals the right-hand side of the equation for every possible variable, then that statement may be called an identity. For more information, refer to this article .

Garrett Clarke - 5 years, 10 months ago

Lol I just saw coprime and saw prime so a added 2,3,5 and got 10

Andrew James - 5 years ago

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Metehan Gökmen - 2 years, 3 months ago
Isaac Buckley
Aug 10, 2015

This is a proof sketch

Using basic trig we find the side length of an n-gon to be 2 sin ( π n ) 2\sin\left(\frac{π}{n}\right)

So our 3 sides are of length: 2 sin ( π 5 ) = 10 20 2 , 2 sin ( π 6 ) = 1 , 2 sin ( π 10 ) = 5 1 2 2\sin\left(\frac{π}{5}\right)=\frac{\sqrt{10-\sqrt{20}}}{2}, \ \ 2\sin\left(\frac{π}{6}\right)=1, \ \ 2\sin\left(\frac{π}{10}\right)=\frac{\sqrt{5}-1}{2}

We then use this version of herons formula for ease:

A = 1 4 ( a 2 + b 2 + c 2 ) 2 2 ( a 4 + b 4 + c 4 ) \large A=\frac{1}{4}\sqrt{(a^2+b^2+c^2)^2-2(a^4+b^4+c^4)}

= 1 4 ( 5 5 2 + 1 + 3 5 2 ) 2 2 ( 15 5 5 2 + 1 + 7 3 5 2 ) =\frac{1}{4}\sqrt{\left(\frac{5-\sqrt{5}}{2}+1+\frac{3-\sqrt{5}}{2}\right)^2-2\left(\frac{15-5\sqrt{5}}{2}+1+\frac{7-3\sqrt{5}}{2}\right)}

= 1 4 ( 5 5 ) 2 24 + 8 5 = 1 4 6 2 5 = 1 4 5 2 5 + 1 \large =\frac{1}{4}\sqrt{ \left(5-\sqrt{5}\right)^2- 24+8\sqrt{5}}=\frac{1}{4}\sqrt{6-2\sqrt{5}}=\frac{1}{4}\sqrt{5-2\sqrt{5}+1}

= 1 4 ( 5 1 ) 2 = 5 1 4 \large =\frac{1}{4}\sqrt{\left(\sqrt{5}-1\right)^2}=\boxed{\frac{\sqrt{5}-1}{4}}

a + b + c = 5 + 1 + 4 = 10 \therefore a+b+c=5+1+4=\boxed{10}

we can prove that the angle made by decagon(side) and the hexagon(side) is 90

Rudresh Tomar - 5 years, 10 months ago

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I do realise that now after seeing Garretts lovely solution. Much more elegantly done.

Isaac Buckley - 5 years, 10 months ago

How did u calculate sin of 18 or sin of 36

Ashish Sacheti - 5 years, 10 months ago
Anh Vu
Aug 20, 2015

A little more intuitive approach to come up with the (true) Pythagorean identity:

First calculate all the sides, we have: side of (pentagon, hexagon, decagon) = ( a , b , c ) = ( 5 2 5 2 , 1 , 3 2 5 2 ) (a,b,c)=(\sqrt{\frac{5}{2} - \frac{\sqrt{5}}{2}},1,\sqrt{\frac{3}{2} - \frac{\sqrt{5}}{2}}) . Note: The formula for the sides is in c o s i n e cosine rather than s i n e sine , so it's s i d e = r 2 2 cos 36 0 n side = r\sqrt{2-2\cos{\frac{360^\circ}{n}}}

You will automatically think of Heron's formula for area given the 3 known sides. However, you will see that without knowing the alternate form of Heron's formula, it's gonna be a gore manipulation if not impossible. Anyhow, it's gonna be tedious. So let's take a closer look at the sides, you will see that a 2 1 = b 2 a^2 - 1 = b^2 and 1 1 can be replaced by c 2 c^2 . Thus, a 2 = b 2 + c 2 a^2 = b^2 + c^2 and ( b , c ) = 9 0 \angle(b,c) = 90^\circ and hence a right triangle.

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