Polynomials with some unknown

Algebra Level 4

Find all integers a a such that the cubic equation x 3 3 x + a x^{3} - 3x + a , has only integer roots.

0 2 5 -2 none of the above both 2 and -2

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Shivam Jadhav
Mar 26, 2015

Using vieta's theorem We get 0 m 2 , n 2 , l 2 6 0 \leq m^{2},n^{2},l^{2} \leq 6 Hence m=2 , n=-1,l=-1 And m= -2,n=1,l=1 m,n,l are roots of given equation.

if a=-2, then discriminant comes out to be 17 which is not a square... so tell me if u put a=-2, how can u get integer roots? @Shivam Jadhav

Sarthak Rath - 6 years, 1 month ago

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This is a cubic not a quadratic.

Archit Boobna - 6 years, 1 month ago

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Well first of all it is not stated that the integer roots are same or different

Aayush Patni - 6 years, 1 month ago

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@Aayush Patni Well,I can't add this solution in the solutions' section as my dad saw the solution while I was still trying.:P.So here it is: Let us assume that : x 3 3 x + a = ( x + b ) ( x 2 + c x + a b ) Simplifying the R.H.S and comparing co-efficients gives : b = ( c ) . . . . . . ( 1 ) and 3 = b c + a b . . . . . . ( 2 ) . The roots become (-b) and the roots of the quadratic equation in the R.H.S . The roots of the quadratic equation are : c ± c 2 4 a b 2 = c ± c 2 b 4 a b 2 Now,in place of b c 2 , we can put b 3 , ( from 1 ) and,in place of 4a,we can put 4 b 3 12 b ( from (1) and (2) ) putting this in the above expression we get, c ± 12 3 b 2 2 . Now, 12 3 b 2 0 4 b 2 . This expression gives 5 values of b,namely,-2,-1,0,1,2 . Now just do hit and trial. \text{Let us assume that}:\\ x^3-3x+a=(x+b)(x^2+cx+\dfrac{a}{b})\\\text{Simplifying the R.H.S and comparing co-efficients gives}:\\ b=(-c)......(1)\ \text{and}\\ -3=bc+\dfrac{a}{b}......(2).\\ \text{The roots become (-b) and the roots of the quadratic equation in the R.H.S}.\\ \text{The roots of the quadratic equation are}:\\ \dfrac{-c\pm \sqrt{c^2-\dfrac{4a}{b}}}{2}\\ =\dfrac{-c\pm \sqrt{\dfrac{c^2 b-4a}{b}}}{2}\\ \text{Now,in place of}\ bc^2,\text{we can put}\ b^3,(\text{from 1})\\ \text{and,in place of 4a,we can put}\ 4b^3-12b(\text{from (1) and (2)})\\ \text{putting this in the above expression we get,}\\ \dfrac{-c \pm \sqrt{12-3b^2}}{2}.\\ \text{Now,}\ 12-3b^2\geq0\\ \Longrightarrow 4\geq b^2.\\ \text{This expression gives 5 values of b,namely,-2,-1,0,1,2}.\\ \text{Now just do hit and trial.} .P.S:It is 12 in the night and I have school tomorrow :P:P

Adarsh Kumar - 6 years, 1 month ago

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@Adarsh Kumar For the polynomial y = x 2 2 x + 1 y = x^2 -2x+1 , we say that it has 1 root (since it repeats) which is 1.

So in context to the above question, if I get the roots 2,1 and 1, shouldn't I say the polynomial has 2 roots . Since 1 is repeated, it should be counted as 1 root.

So technically, the answer should be none of these, since we hget 2 integer roots.

Please do correct me if I am wrong. Adarsh Kumar Calvin Lin

Pankaj Joshi - 6 years, 1 month ago

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@Pankaj Joshi even i did the same....

Archit Boobna - 6 years, 1 month ago

@Pankaj Joshi We say that it has 2 roots, and that these are repeated roots. There is only 1 distinct roots.

In general, a polynomial of degree n n will have n n (complex) roots.

Calvin Lin Staff - 6 years, 1 month ago

@Aayush Patni Yes! That's Why I got it wrong

Archit Boobna - 6 years, 1 month ago

well i could not add a solution......as i got the wrong answer first...

for solving this ....first we differentiate the function..... we get 3(x-1) thus we conclude that the function has slope=0 at 1 and -1 and for the cubic to have 3 roots which are integer...it should intersect x-axis 3 times...or touch x axis one time and intersect it one time...... if we look at the situation graphically.....then....for the roots to be integral...one of the roots should either be 0 or 1 or -1.........because since the slope it zero at -1 and 1...the graph certainly intersects the x-axis somewhere between -1 and 1...or at 1 or at -1............ and in case of 1 and -1.............if the function have them as its roots then certainly ...the function would have only two distinct roots as....the slope at -1 and 1 is zero...... so firstly checking for zero....putting x=0.....and equating the expression with zero...we get a=0 ....but the other roots obtained are not integral......so zero rejected......

secondly putting x=-1 equating the expression with zero..........we get a=-2 now we know that the product of roots is 2...and the function has two distinct roots....where -1 is the repeated root....we get the other root to be 2..by dividing 2 by (-1*-1) hence a=-2 accepted... similarly doing for x=1 we get a=2 which satisfies the conditions

Yash Sharma - 6 years, 1 month ago

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@Yash Sharma I totally agree with you and even I got that answer. But it should have been mentioned that same roots are also considered as 2 roots.

Archit Boobna - 6 years, 1 month ago

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@Archit Boobna i think i did..............i wrote the same as repeated root.............

Yash Sharma - 6 years, 1 month ago

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