Pool Shark #2

Geometry Level 1

If you have a pool table as shown shaped like an isosceles right triangle, with a ball that starts at the right angle, where should you aim at on the hypotenuse so after one bounce the ball hits the midpoint of the left-hand side of the table?

This problem is part of the Brilliant.org Open Problems Group . The end goal for each open problem is to find a solution, and maybe publish it if it's a nice enough result! You can read about the unsolved billiards problem that this one is related to here .

Assume geometric purity: the "ball" has no mass, the "ball" and "hole" are considered single points, and the ball travels straight.

1 8 of the way along \frac{1}{8}\text{ of the way along} 1 6 of the way along \frac{1}{6}\text{ of the way along} 1 5 of the way along \frac{1}{5}\text{ of the way along} 1 4 of the way along \frac{1}{4}\text{ of the way along} 1 3 of the way along \frac{1}{3}\text{ of the way along}

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11 solutions

Boi (보이)
Jan 9, 2018

As shown above, reflect the table over the diagonal line to achieve a square.

What you now need to do is aim at the reflected midpoint, M.

Since AMP and CPB are similar with ratio AM:CB=1:2, we achieve AP:CP=1:2, leading to AP= 1/3 AC.

You made a mistake, you meant "Since AMP and CPB are similar" instead of "Since AMP and CMB are similar".

Rodrigo Úbeda Nuño - 3 years, 4 months ago

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Whups, thanks!

Boi (보이) - 3 years, 4 months ago

This reflection technique is really cool. I also enjoyed the top solution in the Basic section.

Agnishom Chattopadhyay - 3 years, 4 months ago

How do u know that M is the mid point of AD??

Shanu Jindal - 3 years, 4 months ago

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The goal is the midpoint of AB, and AD is the reflection of AB, and M is the reflection of the goal.

Boi (보이) - 3 years, 4 months ago

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Thank you so much!!! Nice solution...Keep up the good work.

Shanu Jindal - 3 years, 4 months ago

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@Shanu Jindal Thank you ^^;

Boi (보이) - 3 years, 4 months ago
Zain Majumder
Jan 14, 2018

Relevant wiki: Similar Triangles Problem Solving - Basic

Since the triangle is isosceles, we know A B \angle A \cong \angle B . Since the ball is reflected back at the same angle after hitting the hypotenuse, A D E B D C \angle ADE \cong \angle BDC . Therefore, A D E B D C \triangle ADE \sim \triangle BDC . Noting that B D = 2 ? BD = \sqrt{2} - ? , we set up an equation:

? 2 ? = 1 2 2 ? = 2 ? ? = 2 3 \frac{?}{\sqrt{2}-?} = \frac{1}{2} \implies 2? = \sqrt{2}-? \implies ? = \frac{\sqrt{2}}{3}

Therefore, ? ? is 1 3 \boxed{\frac{1}{3}} of the hypotenuse.

nice solution :) , after you proved A D E B D C \triangle ADE \sim \triangle BDC one could say : since E A = 1 2 C B EA = \frac{1}{2} CB then A D = 1 2 D B AD = \frac{1}{2} DB so A B = 3 A D AB = 3AD .

Mehdi K. - 3 years, 4 months ago

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That's a better way of doing it, but I'll keep my solution as it is.

Zain Majumder - 3 years, 4 months ago

Like the beginning of your slution. Agree with Mehdi, that as soon as it is proved that the triangles are similar, we obtain a ratio of CB:AE. And so can resolve the quiz.

Vova Kuzmenkov - 3 years, 4 months ago

Your question was vague. "along the hypotenuse" does not indicate the starting point. The answer could as easily be 2/3

David Polley - 3 years, 4 months ago

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The multiple choices also indicate the intent; if 2/3 was also in the multiple choices then there would be ambiguity.

Jason Dyer Staff - 3 years, 4 months ago

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Plus the "?" segment indicates the starting point is at the top.

David Maul - 3 years, 4 months ago

This problem assumes that the ball is sliding, not rolling, so the adjustments for moment of inertia falls out of the equation. That rules out both lateral spin (what billiards players call "English") and radius effects (so we have a point ball rather than a physical object). The latter would make the answer slightly larger than 1/3. The former could substitute literally any answer by controlling the magnitude and direction of the spin on the ball.

Mel Nicholson - 3 years, 4 months ago

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I added a comment about assuming geometric purity for the purposes of this problem (watch this space, though - we have "real billiards table" problem for next week).

Jason Dyer Staff - 3 years, 4 months ago

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I like the note.

Mel Nicholson - 3 years, 4 months ago

What exactly is radial effects? I mean if it is spinning, along velocity, from top to bottom or bottom to top won't it give different answers?

Aniket Shetty - 3 years, 4 months ago

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I said "radius" not "radial" -- the target varies based on the size of the ball. The answer given assumes size zero.

Mel Nicholson - 3 years, 4 months ago
Tom Verhoeff
Jan 15, 2018

Reflect the goal in the longer side (hypothenuse), and draw a line from the start position to the goal's reflection. Consider the set of equidistant parallel lines as shown in the diagram. Such lines divide any intersecting line in equal parts. It is then clear that the desired segment is \fbox{\$\frac{1}{3}\$} of the longer side.

this is art

Mehdi K. - 3 years, 4 months ago

Would've been my approach, too. Makes sense to pool/snooker players!

Rafael Witak - 3 years, 4 months ago

The star in the reflection is not representing the half any more. Agreed with the visual representation, it was the simplest in my mind as well. Thanks!

Roxana Luca - 3 years, 4 months ago

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What do you mean? The stars label the midpoint on both sides. The slanted lines create an optical illusion.

Tom Verhoeff - 3 years, 4 months ago

how do we know the parallel lines are all equidistant?

Marcus Bizony - 3 years, 4 months ago

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Create a grid of the squares. Then the parallel lines alternate passing through one corner and one midpoint. Their horizontal distance is half the width of the square.

Tom Verhoeff - 3 years, 4 months ago

The question was poorly written... along what from where?

John McMurtry - 3 years, 4 months ago
Richard C
Jan 17, 2018

Assuming no trick-shot spin, the ball must bounce of the hypotenuse of the triangle with equal incident-reflection angles (alpha) in the diagram below.

Simple geometry shows that triangle A and B in diagram have same proportions and B is 2 x size of A (length dimensions). Therefore the hypotenuse of the original triangle must be divided by ratio 1:2 or 1/3 : 2/3.

Perfect simple solution!

Marshall Thompson - 3 years, 4 months ago
Robert DeLisle
Jan 16, 2018

Applying the same principle of following a line across adjoining reflected tables used in a solution of the 2 bounce center to upper right corner problem.

David B
Jan 17, 2018

I got a really easy intuitive solution without maths: Imagine a line parallel to the hypothesis going through the starting point. Then imagine the square with the goal point in its centre. Now complete the path the ball goes in this square so that the path goes through the goal and ends in the corner opposite to the starting corner. The 3 straight segments of this path obviously have the same length. As well as the shadow they throw on the hypothesis. So it's obvious the aim-point is at 2/3 of the side of the square, which is 1/2 of the hypothesis. 2/3 * 1/2 = 1/3

Lixin Zheng
Jan 21, 2018

Since D is the center of segment A B AB , assign A B = 2 AB=2 . Therefore, A D = D B = 1 2 AD=DB=\frac12 . A B C = A C B = 45 \angle ABC=\angle ACB=45 \circ . A D K \triangle ADK and C B K \triangle CBK are similar, as their angle measures are the same. This means that A D A K = C B C K \frac{AD}{AK}=\frac{CB}{CK} . But A D B C = 1 2 \frac{AD}{BC}=\frac12 , then A K C K = 1 2 \frac{AK}{CK}=\frac12 , meaning that A K C K = 1 3 \frac{AK}{CK}=\boxed{\frac{1}{3}}

James Wood
Jan 18, 2018

Go play pool for a while and you will know that it is about 1/3 down.

Edwin Gray
Jan 16, 2018

Let the triangle vertices be A,B,C, where A is at top and B is the right angle. Let D be the mid-point of the left side, P be the point on the hypotenuse where the ball strikes, and <t = <BPC = <APD, by the reflection law. Let S be a side, S sqrt(2) the hypotenuse, and x = AP. We have the following equations by the Law of Sines: (1) (S/2)/sin(t) = x/sin(135 -t), and (2) (S sqrt(2) - x)/sin(135 - t) = S/sin(t). Substituting, 2x = S sqrt(2) - x, and x = (1/3)S sqrt(2) = (1/3)*hypotenuse. Ed Gray

Mike Holden
Jan 19, 2018

You do not need fancy maths to solve this problem. Let the Goal be point G. Let the bounce point on AC be D. Let the angle BDC be alpha. If no energy is lost in the bounce then the angle ADG will also be alpha. Angles GAD and DCB are both 45 degrees. So, triangles AGD and BDC are similar triangles. AG is opposite angle ADG (alpha). BC is opposite angle ADG (alpha). BC is twice as long as AG. So, DC is twice as long as AD. So AD is one third as long as AC. So you should aim the ball to hit AC one third of the way between A and C. It takes longer to explain than it does to work it out in your head.

Musab Fadel
Jan 17, 2018

X = 1/3

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