Poor Bug, Will it ever succeed?

An extremely stretchable rubber band of natural length L \displaystyle L has its one end tied to a wall.
A bug peacefully rests at the outer end. Just when it seemed that everything was good, an evil-minded child starts pulling the outer end by a constant velocity v \displaystyle v . The bug immediately realizes the danger, and simultaneously starts crawling towards the other end at a speed u \displaystyle u (relative to the band).

Will the bug ever reach the wall? If so, how long (in sec) would it take to reach it?

Answer 0 \displaystyle 0 if you think that the bug will never reach the wall.

Details and Assumptions:
\bullet L = 15 cm \displaystyle L = 15 \text{ cm}
\bullet v = 3 cm/s \displaystyle v = 3 \text{ cm/s}
\bullet u = 1 cm/s \displaystyle u = 1 \text{ cm/s}


The answer is 95.427.

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4 solutions

Anish Puthuraya
Feb 21, 2014

Assume at time t \displaystyle t , the bug is at a distance x \displaystyle x from the wall.
At the same time, the free end of the rubber band is at a distance L + v t \displaystyle L+vt from the wall.

Since the band stretches uniformly,
The speed of stretching at the position of the bug is,
v x L + v t v\frac{x}{L+vt}

Thus, the relative velocity of the bug with respect to the wall is,
v x L + v t u = d x d t v\frac{x}{L+vt} - u = \frac{dx}{dt}

Solving the differential equation, and substituting x = 0 \displaystyle x=0 , we get,

t = L v ( e v / u 1 ) 95.427 s e c t = \frac{L}{v}\left(e^{v/u}-1\right) \approx \boxed{95.427sec}

How to solve that differential equation?

Thái An Lê - 7 years, 3 months ago

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Do you want to know how to solve it?

Kishore S. Shenoy - 5 years, 7 months ago

shouldn't it be -(u+v) instead of -u, as it is given relative to the band it is u

Rahul Badenkal - 5 years, 11 months ago

speed of stretching at bug position vx/(L+vt) how????????

Ak Sharma - 7 years, 3 months ago

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Speed varies linearly along the band....

In other words, the speed at the tied end is zero, and the speed at the free end is v v ,
So since the band stretches uniformly, the speed at a general position on the band (measured from the tied end) is given by,

v s t r e t c h = v x l e n g t h v_{stretch} = v\frac{x}{length}

Now, note that the length of the band is varying with time as,
l e n g t h = L + v t length = L+vt

Hence.
v s t r e t c h = v x L + v t v_{stretch} = v\frac{x}{L+vt}

Anish Puthuraya - 7 years, 3 months ago

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But, you didn't mention uniform stretching in the question. I assumed all the points on band to be moving with 3cm/s.

Shubham Maurya - 7 years ago

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@Shubham Maurya Then how will the point at the wall move? That proves that you are wrong...

Kishore S. Shenoy - 5 years, 7 months ago

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@Kishore S. Shenoy yeah I got it now..Thanks

Shubham Maurya - 5 years, 7 months ago

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@Shubham Maurya I'm happy that I became useful

Kishore S. Shenoy - 5 years, 7 months ago

awesome solution !! truly brilliant

Mohit Maheshwari - 7 years ago

we can also consider fraction of band covered f then df/dt=u/(L+vt) then integrate f from 0 to 1 hence the answer.

Zubin Arya - 7 years ago

How do you solve a differential equation of that type? (I'm young :P) I got stuck there so I tried another approach, evaluating the fraction x(t)/l(t) where x(t) is the distance of the bug from the wall and l(t) is the position of the rubber band at time t. Then I evaluated that fraction at time t+dt, and it allowed me to get an easy ode after approximating to first order in dt (there was a +vdt in a denominator summed to L+vt)

Gabriele Manganelli - 4 years ago

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Substitute. That will work. Please ask if I'm not clear.

Kishore S. Shenoy - 4 years ago

the bug can never reach the wall because in frame fixed to the other end of the rubber band the wall appears to be moving at velocity greater than the bug so how can these to reach wall will always a ahead of the bug

Karthik Sai - 2 years, 5 months ago
Kenny Lau
Oct 24, 2015

x ˙ = 3 x 15 + 3 t 1 = x 5 + t 1 \displaystyle\dot x=\frac{3x}{15+3t}-1=\frac x{5+t}-1

x ˙ x 5 + t = 1 \displaystyle\dot x-\frac x{5+t}=-1

x ˙ + f ( t ) x = g ( t ) \displaystyle\dot x+f(t)x=g(t)

The integrating factor is e f ( t ) d t = e d t 5 + t = e ln t + 5 = 1 t + 5 \large e^{\int f(t)\ \mathrm dt}=e^{\int-\frac{\mathrm dt}{5+t}}=e^{-\ln|t+5|}=\frac 1{t+5}

Multiplying the whole equation by the integrating factor.

x ˙ t + 5 x ( t + 5 ) 2 = 1 t + 5 \displaystyle\frac{\dot x}{t+5}-\frac x{(t+5)^2}=\frac{-1}{t+5}

[ x ˙ t + 5 x ( t + 5 ) 2 ] d t = d t t + 5 \displaystyle\int\left[\frac{\dot x}{t+5}-\frac x{(t+5)^2}\right]\mathrm dt=\int\frac{-\ \mathrm dt}{t+5}

x t + 5 = d t t + 5 \displaystyle\frac{x}{t+5}=\int\frac{-\ \mathrm dt}{t+5}

x t + 5 = ln ( t + 5 ) + C \displaystyle\frac{x}{t+5}=-\ln(t+5)+C

Putting t = 0 t=0 and x = 15 x=15 gives C = 3 + ln 5 C=3+\ln5 .

x t + 5 = ln ( t + 5 ) + ln 5 + 3 = ln 5 e 3 t + 5 \displaystyle\frac{x}{t+5}=-\ln(t+5)+\ln5+3=\ln\frac{5e^3}{t+5}

x = ( t + 5 ) ln 5 e 3 t + 5 \displaystyle x=(t+5)\ln\frac{5e^3}{t+5}

Solving x = 0 x=0 gives t = 95.43 t=95.43 .

Perry Esguerra
Mar 14, 2014

Let x be the distance of the bug from the wall. dx/dt = u + [x/(L+vt)]v

Consider the auxiliary variable z = x/(L+vt). Using this new variable leads to: d/dt[(L+vt)z]=u+vz

or

(L+vt)dz/dt + vz = u + vz

or

dz = u dt/ (L+vt)

Integrating both sides yields z(t) = (u/v) ln [1+vt/L]

By using the condition z=1 when the beg reaches the end of the rubber band, we can get the fllowing through elementary algebra:

t = (L/V) [ exp(v/u) -1] = 5 ( e^3 - 1) = 95.4276846 s

Kishore S. Shenoy
Oct 18, 2015

Consider coordinate ψ \psi measured along the band, with the starting fixed point ψ = 0 \psi = 0 , and the end point ψ = 1 \psi = 1 . In this system, all points on the system remains fixed (in terms of ψ \psi ) as the ropes stretches. A point x = X x =X on the the rope will have a coordinate ϕ ( t ) = ψ = X L + v t , \phi(t)=\psi = \dfrac{X}{L +vt}, and the speed of the bug is equivalent to ϕ ( t ) = u L + v t \phi'(t) = -\dfrac{u}{L+vt}

We thus reduced the requirement of solving the Difference Equation.

So, ϕ ( t ) = u v ln ( L + v t ) + κ \phi(t) = -\dfrac{u}{v}\ln(L+vt) + \kappa where κ \kappa is the constant of integration.

Putting limits to get the value of κ \kappa , we know ϕ ( 0 ) = 1 \phi(0) = 1 1 = u v ln L + κ κ = 1 + u v ln L ϕ ( t ) = u v ln ( L + v t ) + 1 + u v ln L = u v ln ( L L + v t + 1 ) \begin{aligned}1 &= -\dfrac u v \ln L + \kappa\\\kappa &= 1+\dfrac uv \ln L\\\\\Rightarrow \phi(t) &= -\dfrac{u}{v}\ln(L+vt) + 1+\dfrac uv \ln L\\&=\dfrac uv \ln\left(\dfrac{L}{L+vt} + 1\right)\end{aligned}

Hence, to get time T T , ϕ ( T ) = 0 = u v ln ( L L + v T + 1 ) 1 = u v ln ( L + v T L ) T = L v ( e v u 1 ) \begin{aligned}\phi(T) = 0 &= \dfrac uv \ln\left(\dfrac{L}{L+vT} +1\right)\\ \Rightarrow 1 &= \dfrac uv \ln \left(\dfrac {L+vT}L \right)\\\Large\Rightarrow T &= \dfrac Lv \left(e^{\dfrac vu} - 1\right)\end{aligned}

T = L v ( e v u 1 ) 95.4277 \displaystyle \Huge \therefore \boxed{T = \dfrac Lv \left(e^{\frac vu} - 1\right)}\Large\approx 95.4277

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Good standard solution. Can you think of a way to the answer without solving differential equations?

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