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What is the total number of integer solutions x x such that 5 21 + 1 < x 7 < 2 49 1 ? 5^{21} + 1 < x^7 < 2^{49} - 1?


The answer is 2.

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6 solutions

Mani Jha
Dec 15, 2013

To find the value of x, we will have to take 1-7th power of all terms in the inequality. But it is not easy to find the value of ( 5 21 + 1 ) 1 / 7 (5^{21}+1)^{1/7} or ( 2 49 1 ) 1 / 7 (2^{49}-1)^{1/7} . But the main thing to notice in this problem is that we can easily find the seventh roots of 5 21 5^{21} and 2 49 2^{49} . We must somehow use that in the problem.

Take each inequality individually:

1. x 7 < 2 49 1 x^{7}<2^{49}-1 Since x 7 x^{7} is less than 2 49 1 2^{49}-1 , It must also be less than 2 49 2^{49} which is greater than 2 49 1 2^{49}-1 .

x 7 < 2 49 x^{7}<2^{49} x < 2 7 o r x < 128 x<2^{7} or x<128

But x is actually less than ( 2 49 1 ) 1 / 7 (2^{49}-1)^{1/7} which should be around 127.9 (Mathematical Intuition). Still, the integral values of x are less than 128.

2. x 7 > 5 21 + 1 x^{7}>5^{21}+1 Since x 7 x^{7} is greater than 5 21 + 1 5^{21}+1 it must also be greater than 5 21 5^{21} which is less than 5 21 + 1 5^{21}+1 .

So, x 7 > 5 21 o r x > 5 3 o r x > 125 x^{7}>5^{21} or x>5^{3} or x>125 But x is actually greater than ( 5 21 + 1 ) 1 / 7 (5^{21}+1)^{1/7} which should be around 125.1 (Mathematical Intuition). Still, the integral values of x are greater than 125.

So let's combine: 125 < x < 128 125<x<128 So x can be 126 or 127. So answer is 2

Intuition may sometimes cloud our judgement.I think it is necessary to prove that if x x is a perfect power of something, x ± 1 x\pm 1 will never be a perfect power of something.

Rahul Saha - 7 years, 5 months ago

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Ok. Suppose x = a 2 x=a^{2} is a perfect square. Assume that x 1 = k 2 x-1=k^{2} is also a perfect square, such that a > k > 0 a>k>0 and a, k and x all be natural numbers, because x=1 is an exception to this rule.

So, a 2 1 = k 2 a^2-1=k^2

See that if k is the perfect square root of x 1 ) x-1) , it should be atleast equal to a 1 a-1 .. Because there is no other integer between a a and a 1 a-1 . If you substitue k = a 1 k=a-1 you well get a=0 as the only solution, which we omit. But let us consider the general case when k = a n k=a-n where n is any integer less than a.

We get: a 2 ( a n ) 2 = 1 a^{2}-(a-n)^{2}=1

2 a = n + 1 n 2a=n+\frac{1}{n}

The left hand side of this equation is an integer, but the right hand side is not, since 1 n \frac{1}{n} is a fraction. So, we reach a contradiction.

So, our assumption was wrong i.e if x is a perfect square, x-1 cannot be.

Mani Jha - 7 years, 5 months ago

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But 1 and 0 are both perfect squares.

I can't really follow your train of thoughts. Can you try explaining it again?

Chung Kevin - 7 years, 5 months ago

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@Chung Kevin Yes, 0 and 1 are exceptions to the rule but the only one. See here a is the square root of x x and k is the square root of x 1 ) x-1) . So k must be less than a. But we have assumed k and a to be natural numbers, so k must differ from a by a natural number only.

So, I have assumed k = a n k=a-n .

Now, If we substitute that in a 2 1 = k 2 a^2-1=k^2 we get:

2 a = n + 1 n 2a=n+\frac{1}{n}

If we put n=1 we get a=1 and k=0. That is the only solution. If n>1:

2a is an integer but n + 1 n n+\frac{1}{n} is not. So, this equation is wrong. It means that our initial assumptions was wrong i.e. the square root of a number 1 less than a perfect square cannot be a natural number.

Mani Jha - 7 years, 5 months ago

i solved it the same way

Kshitij Mishra - 7 years, 5 months ago
Hùng Minh
Dec 15, 2013

5^21 = 5^(3.7)=125^7; 2^49 = 2^(7.7) = 128^7; 125^7 + 1 < X^7 < 128^7 - 1<=> 125 < X < 128 <=> X = 126, 127. There is 2

Eduardo Teruo
Dec 15, 2013

If we think that:

x 7 > 5 21 + 1 = x > 5 21 7 + 1 1 7 x^{7} > 5^{21} + 1 = x > 5^{\frac{21}{7}} + 1^{\frac{1}{7}}

> By definition: 1 n = 1 1^{n} = 1

x > 5 3 + 1 x > 5^{3} + 1

x > 125 + 1 = x > 126 x > 125 + 1 = \boxed{x > 126}

And:

x 7 < 2 49 1 = x < 2 49 7 1 1 7 x^{7} < 2^{49} - 1 = x < 2^{\frac{49}{7}} - 1^{\frac{1}{7}}

x < 2 7 1 x < 2^{7} - 1

x < 128 1 = x < 127 x < 128 - 1 = \boxed{x < 127}

Well... we know that 126 < x < 127 !

" x " is between these two integers... then there will be 2 integers satisfying " x "

  • 1 -> 126
  • 2 -> 127

    = 2 = \boxed{2}

x 7 > 5 21 + 1 x > 5 21 + 1 7 x > 5 21 7 + 1 1 7 { x }^{ 7 }>{ 5 }^{ 21 }+1\\ \Rightarrow x>\sqrt [ 7 ]{ { 5 }^{ 21 }+1 } \nLeftrightarrow x>{ 5 }^{ \frac { 21 }{ 7 } }+{ 1 }^{ \frac { 1 }{ 7 } }

x 7 < 2 49 1 x < 2 49 1 7 x < 2 49 7 1 1 7 { x }^{ 7 }<{ 2 }^{ 49 }-1\\ \Rightarrow x<\sqrt [ 7 ]{ { 2 }^{ 49 }-1 } \nLeftrightarrow x<{ 2 }^{ \frac { 49 }{ 7 } }-{ 1 }^{ \frac { 1 }{ 7 } }

According to your solution of 126 < x < 127 126<x<127 , there exists no integer solution of x x .

Kenneth Choo - 5 years, 3 months ago

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(5^21 + 1)^1/7 is not 5^3 + 1^1/7

Danica Bertha - 3 years, 10 months ago

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That's what I meant. Hence, Eduardo's solution is incorrect.

Kenneth Choo - 3 years, 10 months ago

It has no integers betweeb 126 an 127 because it has no equality sign

Danica Bertha - 3 years, 10 months ago

Wrong solution. Tho it's approximate cause square roots of close numbers are close enough! (Should've mentioned) Also 126 < x < 127 126 < x < 127 makes it mathematically impossible for any integer to exist. It's 127 x 126 127 \geq x \geq 126 or 125 < x < 128 125 < x < 128 .

Akshay Krishna - 2 years, 5 months ago
Shaun Loong
Feb 17, 2014

All we have to do is to evaluate the inequalities separately:

First inequality , 5 21 + 1 < x 7 5^{21}+1< x^{7} .We may rearrange the term and see that ( 5 3 ) 7 x 7 < 1 (5^{3})^{7}-x^{7}< -1 . It is obvious that the integer values satisfying the inequality is x = 126 , 127 , . . . x=126,127,...

Second inequality , x 7 < 2 49 1 x^{7}< 2^{49}-1 . Same as the former, we arrange the terms and see that 1 < ( 2 7 ) 7 x 7 1< (2^{7})^{7}-x^{7} . It is also obvious that the integer values satisfying this inequality is x = 127 , 126 , . . . x=127,126,... .

Hence, the value of x x satisfying both inequalities is only 126 126 and 127 127 . There are 2 \boxed{2} solutions.

Hello,

as 5^(21) +1 < x^7 < 2^(49) - 1

x^7 > 5^(21) + 1(1st condition)

x^7 = (125)^7

x = 125,

x^7 = 2^(49) -1

x^7 = (128)^7(2nd condition)

x=128

as the range 125 < x < 128 = (125)^7 < x^7 < (128)^7 = 5^(21) + 1 < x^7 < 2^49 - 1,it has only have 2 solutions as x = 126,127....therefore,total number of solutions is 2....

Khaled Mohamed
Feb 12, 2014

using the calculator:

5^{21} +1 < x^{7} < 2^{49} -1 ( take the seventh root from both sides ) "by the calculator as well"

125 < x < 128

then the possible integer solutions are 126 ans 127

which are 2 solutions

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