Over all positive real numbers such that x + y = 1 , what is the maximum value of
x 4 y + x y 4 ?
Give your answer to 3 decimal places.
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I can't believe I wasted all three tries trying to find the minimum...
Very similar approach to Altan-Ulzii Chuluun's.
your approach is similar to me!!
Can u find any problem in following :
SIMILARILY take 4 no. S as y/4 and one as x Add these two inequalities
Did exactly the same
What if luck doesn't work ? And 'xy' thus obtained does not satisfy the equation..
f ( t ) = − 3 t 2 + t m a x { f ( t ) } = 4 . a − Δ = 1 2 1 . Btw, overrated problem.
x 4 y + x y 4 = x y ( x 3 + y 3 ) = x y ( x + y ) ( x 2 − x y + y 2 ) = x y ( ( x + y ) 2 − 3 x y ) = x y ( 1 − 3 x y ) = 3 3 x y ( 1 − 3 x y )
By using Cauchy's inequality: 3 3 x y ( 1 − 3 x y ) ≤ 3 ( 2 3 x y + 1 − 3 x y ) 2 = 1 2 1
This is a great proof, but a few things should be justified for complete rigorousness:
First, you had to justify that 1 − 3 x y > 0 , because only then can you apply AM-GM (not sure why you call it Cauchy's inequality). To prove this, notice that x y ≤ ( 2 x + y ) 2 = 4 1 < 3 1
You also had to show that 1 2 1 is an attainable maximum, and this can be done by knowing the only equality case in AM-GM, which in this case is 3 x y = 1 − 3 x y ⟹ { x y = 6 1 x + y = 1 ⟹ x = 6 3 ± 3 , y = 6 3 ∓ 3
Here's the simple solution:
We got the degree of given equation as 5, thus I took 1's fifth part i.e. 0.2 as x and so as per condition y =0.8
Put these values to get the answer as 0.0832 precisely.
P.S. :
For practice you can try various other functions of degree 2, 3,4 and can get accurate results with same method. I know this is shortcut, but it is still effective.
How would you explain the logic behind this solution on, say, an olympiad?
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Wrong; the maximum value is 1 2 1 = 0 . 0 8 3 3 3 3 … , not exactly 0 . 0 8 3 2 . However, I did solve it by calculus like your method (because why not).
However, the approach you gave as your solution (about taking the sum 1 divided by the degree 5 ) is completely unjustifiable. Maximize x 3 y 2 with x + y = 1 ; the maximum is achieved when x = 5 3 = 0 . 6 , not x = 5 1 = 0 . 2 .
did the same way!
LOL NICE :)
Set ( x , y ) = ( cos 2 t , sin 2 t where t ∈ ( 0 , π ) − { π / 2 } , then : x 4 y + x y 4 = cos 8 t ( 1 − cos 2 t ) + ( 1 − cos 2 t ) 4 cos 2 t = cos 2 t − 4 cos 4 t + 6 cos 6 t − 3 cos 8 t = 1 2 8 7 − 4 cos ( 4 t ) − 3 cos ( 8 t ) = y = cos 4 t 6 4 5 − 2 y − 3 y 2 Now the problem became really simple, we just need to find min { 6 4 5 − 2 y − 3 y 2 ∣ − 1 ≤ y ≤ 1 } , which is easy : 6 4 1 ( 5 − 2 y − 3 y 2 ) = 6 4 1 ( 3 1 6 − ( y 3 + 3 1 ) 2 ) ≤ 6 4 1 ⋅ 3 1 6 = 1 2 1 Equality is attainable at y = 3 − 1 ∈ ( − 1 , 1 ) then the maximum is 1 2 1 ≈ 0 . 0 8 3 3 3 . .
My solution is a lot simpler. Please read and verify it.
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You havent even posted one!!!!
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i am typing it
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@Sai Prasanth Rao – i am not able to use the math editor properly.
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@Sai Prasanth Rao – this solution is a lot simpler
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@Sai Prasanth Rao – Sure..AM-GM IS IT???
While what I did was similar to many others, I am wondering why x=y gave us neither the maximum nor the minimum value?
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We simplify the given expression: x 4 y + x y 4 = x y ( x 3 + y 3 ) = x y ( x + y ) ( x 2 − x y + y 2 ) = x y ( x 2 − x y + y 2 ) = x y [ ( x + y ) 2 − 3 x y ] = x y ( 1 − 3 x y ) . Now let t = x y , so the expression becomes simply t ( 1 − 3 t ) = − 3 t 2 + t .
The maximum value of this expression occurs when t = − 2 ( − 3 ) 1 = 6 1 . Luckily, this value of t is attainable: solving the system x + y = 1 and x y = 6 1 gives the solution ( x , y ) = ( 6 3 − 3 , 6 3 + 3 ) in some order.
Thus, the maximum value of the expression is − 3 ⋅ ( 6 1 ) 2 + 6 1 = 1 2 1 . (We would enter the approximation 0 . 0 8 3 . )