progessions and sequences

Algebra Level 5

Over all positive real numbers such that x + y = 1 x + y = 1 , what is the maximum value of

x 4 y + x y 4 ? x^4 y + x y^4?

Give your answer to 3 decimal places.


The answer is 0.083.

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5 solutions

Michael Tang
Jul 23, 2014

We simplify the given expression: x 4 y + x y 4 = x y ( x 3 + y 3 ) = x y ( x + y ) ( x 2 x y + y 2 ) = x y ( x 2 x y + y 2 ) = x y [ ( x + y ) 2 3 x y ] = x y ( 1 3 x y ) . \begin{aligned} x^4y + xy^4 &= xy(x^3+y^3) \\ &= xy(x+y)(x^2-xy+y^2) \\ &= xy(x^2-xy+y^2) \\ &= xy[(x+y)^2 - 3xy] \\ &= xy(1-3xy). \end{aligned} Now let t = x y , t = xy, so the expression becomes simply t ( 1 3 t ) = 3 t 2 + t . t(1-3t) = -3t^2 + t.

The maximum value of this expression occurs when t = 1 2 ( 3 ) = 1 6 . t = -\dfrac{1}{2(-3)} = \dfrac16. Luckily, this value of t t is attainable: solving the system x + y = 1 x + y = 1 and x y = 1 6 xy = \dfrac16 gives the solution ( x , y ) = ( 3 3 6 , 3 + 3 6 ) (x, y) = \left(\dfrac{3-\sqrt3}{6}, \dfrac{3+\sqrt3}{6}\right) in some order.

Thus, the maximum value of the expression is 3 ( 1 6 ) 2 + 1 6 = 1 12 . -3 \cdot \left(\dfrac16\right)^2 + \dfrac16 = \boxed{\dfrac1{12}}. (We would enter the approximation 0.083. 0.083. )

I can't believe I wasted all three tries trying to find the minimum...

Daniel Liu - 6 years, 10 months ago

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ha! me too...TT

敬全 钟 - 6 years, 10 months ago

Very similar approach to Altan-Ulzii Chuluun's.

mathh mathh - 6 years, 10 months ago

your approach is similar to me!!

Parth Lohomi - 6 years, 9 months ago

Can u find any problem in following :

take 4 no. s as x/4 and one as y and apply AM-GM

SIMILARILY take 4 no. S as y/4 and one as x Add these two inequalities

Aakash Khandelwal - 5 years, 11 months ago

Did exactly the same

Deepanshu Vijay - 5 years, 2 months ago

What if luck doesn't work ? And 'xy' thus obtained does not satisfy the equation..

Vishal Yadav - 4 years, 3 months ago

f ( t ) = 3 t 2 + t f(t)=-3t^{2}+t m a x { f ( t ) } = Δ 4. a = 1 12 . max\{f(t)\}=\frac{-\Delta}{4.a}=\frac{1}{12}. Btw, overrated problem.

Dieuler Oliveira - 6 years, 10 months ago

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Of course it is!

Satvik Golechha - 6 years, 9 months ago

x 4 y + x y 4 = x y ( x 3 + y 3 ) = x y ( x + y ) ( x 2 x y + y 2 ) x^{4}y+xy^{4}=xy(x^{3}+y^{3})=xy(x+y)(x^{2}-xy+y^{2}) = x y ( ( x + y ) 2 3 x y ) = x y ( 1 3 x y ) = 3 x y ( 1 3 x y ) 3 =xy((x+y)^{2}-3xy)=xy(1-3xy)=\frac{3xy(1-3xy)}{3}

By using Cauchy's inequality: 3 x y ( 1 3 x y ) 3 ( 3 x y + 1 3 x y 2 ) 2 3 = 1 12 \frac{3xy(1-3xy)}{3}≤\frac{(\frac{3xy+1-3xy}{2})^{2}}{3}=\frac{1}{12}

This is a great proof, but a few things should be justified for complete rigorousness:

First, you had to justify that 1 3 x y > 0 1-3xy>0 , because only then can you apply AM-GM (not sure why you call it Cauchy's inequality). To prove this, notice that x y ( x + y 2 ) 2 = 1 4 < 1 3 xy\le \left(\frac{x+y}{2}\right)^2=\frac{1}{4}<\frac{1}{3}

You also had to show that 1 12 \frac{1}{12} is an attainable maximum, and this can be done by knowing the only equality case in AM-GM, which in this case is 3 x y = 1 3 x y { x y = 1 6 x + y = 1 3xy=1-3xy\implies \begin{cases}xy=\frac{1}{6}\\x+y=1\end{cases} x = 3 ± 3 6 , y = 3 3 6 \implies x=\frac{3\pm\sqrt{3}}{6},\: y=\frac{3\mp\sqrt{3}}{6}

mathh mathh - 6 years, 10 months ago
Vaibhav Borale
Jul 23, 2014

Here's the simple solution:

We got the degree of given equation as 5, thus I took 1's fifth part i.e. 0.2 as x and so as per condition y =0.8

Put these values to get the answer as 0.0832 precisely.

P.S. :

For practice you can try various other functions of degree 2, 3,4 and can get accurate results with same method. I know this is shortcut, but it is still effective.

How would you explain the logic behind this solution on, say, an olympiad?

Michael Tang - 6 years, 10 months ago

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mine mine

Mr. Michael Tang, let me know if this is making sense.

VAIBHAV borale - 6 years, 10 months ago

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Wrong; the maximum value is 1 12 = 0.083333 \frac{1}{12} = 0.083333\ldots , not exactly 0.0832 0.0832 . However, I did solve it by calculus like your method (because why not).

However, the approach you gave as your solution (about taking the sum 1 1 divided by the degree 5 5 ) is completely unjustifiable. Maximize x 3 y 2 x^3y^2 with x + y = 1 x+y = 1 ; the maximum is achieved when x = 3 5 = 0.6 x = \frac{3}{5} = 0.6 , not x = 1 5 = 0.2 x = \frac{1}{5} = 0.2 .

Ivan Koswara - 6 years, 10 months ago

did the same way!

Gokul Kumar - 5 years, 9 months ago

LOL NICE :)

Jayakumar Krishnan - 6 years, 10 months ago

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Dude it works

VAIBHAV borale - 6 years, 10 months ago
Haroun Meghaichi
Jul 23, 2014

Set ( x , y ) = ( cos 2 t , sin 2 t (x,y)=(\cos^2 t, \sin^2t where t ( 0 , π ) { π / 2 } t\in (0,\pi)-\{\pi/2\} , then : x 4 y + x y 4 = cos 8 t ( 1 cos 2 t ) + ( 1 cos 2 t ) 4 cos 2 t = cos 2 t 4 cos 4 t + 6 cos 6 t 3 cos 8 t = 7 4 cos ( 4 t ) 3 cos ( 8 t ) 128 = y = cos 4 t 5 2 y 3 y 2 64 \begin{aligned} x^4y+xy^4 &= \cos^8 t (1-\cos^2 t) +(1-\cos^2 t)^4\cos^2 t \\ &= \cos^2 t-4\cos^{4}t+6\cos^6 t -3 \cos^8 t \\ &= \frac{7-4\cos (4t) -3 \cos(8t)}{128} \\ &\overset{y=\cos 4t}{=} \frac{5-2y-3y^2}{64}\end{aligned} Now the problem became really simple, we just need to find min { 5 2 y 3 y 2 64 1 y 1 } \min\left\{\frac{5-2y-3y^2}{64}\ |\ -1\leq y \leq 1 \right\} , which is easy : 1 64 ( 5 2 y 3 y 2 ) = 1 64 ( 16 3 ( y 3 + 1 3 ) 2 ) 1 64 16 3 = 1 12 \frac{1}{64}(5-2y-3y^2) = \frac{1}{64} \left(\frac{16}{3} - \left(y\sqrt{3} +\frac{1}{\sqrt{3}} \right)^2 \right) \leq \frac{1}{64}\cdot \frac{16}{3} = \frac{1}{12} Equality is attainable at y = 1 3 ( 1 , 1 ) y=\frac{-1}{3} \in (-1,1) then the maximum is 1 12 0.08333.. \frac{1}{12} \approx 0.08333..

My solution is a lot simpler. Please read and verify it.

Sai Prasanth Rao - 6 years, 10 months ago

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You havent even posted one!!!!

Jayakumar Krishnan - 6 years, 10 months ago

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i am typing it

Sai Prasanth Rao - 6 years, 10 months ago

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@Sai Prasanth Rao i am not able to use the math editor properly.

Sai Prasanth Rao - 6 years, 10 months ago

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@Sai Prasanth Rao this solution is a lot simpler

Sai Prasanth Rao - 6 years, 10 months ago

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@Sai Prasanth Rao Sure..AM-GM IS IT???

Jayakumar Krishnan - 6 years, 10 months ago
Yugesh Kothari
Feb 15, 2016

While what I did was similar to many others, I am wondering why x=y gave us neither the maximum nor the minimum value?

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