An algebra problem by Munem Shahriar

Algebra Level 1

If m + 1 m = 2 m+\dfrac 1m=2 , what is m 4 + 1 m 4 ? m^4+\dfrac 1{m^4}?

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6 solutions

Chew-Seong Cheong
Mar 18, 2017

m + 1 m = 2 ( m + 1 m ) 2 = 2 2 m 2 + 2 + 1 m 2 = 4 m 2 + 1 m 2 = 2 ( m 2 + 1 m 2 ) 2 = 2 2 m 4 + 2 + 1 m 4 = 4 m 4 + 1 m 4 = 2 \begin{aligned} m + \frac 1m & = 2 \\ \left(m+\frac 1m \right)^2 & = 2^2 \\ m^2 +2+\frac 1{m^2} &= 4 \\ m^2 +\frac 1{m^2} &= 2 \\ \left(m^2+\frac 1{m^2} \right)^2 & = 2^2 \\ m^4 +2+\frac 1{m^4} &= 4 \\ \implies m^4 +\frac 1{m^4} &= \boxed 2 \end{aligned}

Freddie Hand
Mar 18, 2017

m + 1 m = 2 m+\frac{1}{m}=2

so m = 1 m=1

m 4 + 1 m 4 = 2 \large m^{4}+\frac{1}{m^{4}}=\boxed 2

Because m + 1 m = 2 m+\frac{1}{m}=2 , this makes the problem easy. It would be better if you used, say, m + 1 m = 3 m+\frac{1}{m}=3 .

Then the ans will be 47. right?

Munem Shahriar - 4 years, 2 months ago

yes, that's right.

Freddie Hand - 4 years, 2 months ago
Munem Shahriar
Mar 18, 2017

m 4 m^4 + 1 m 4 \dfrac{1}{m^4}

= ( m 2 ) 2 + ( 1 m 2 ) 2 =(m^2)^2 +(\dfrac{1}{m^2})^2

= ( m 2 + 1 m 2 ) 2 2 m 2 1 m 2 = (m^2+\dfrac{1}{m^2})^2 -2 \cdot m^2 \cdot \dfrac{1}{m^2}

= { ( m = \{ (m + 1 m ) 2 2 m 1 m } 2 2 \dfrac{1}{m})^2 -2 \cdot m \cdot \dfrac{1}{m}\}^2 - 2

= { ( 2 ) 2 2 } 2 2 = \{ (2)^2 - 2 \}^2 - 2

= ( 4 2 ) 2 2 = (4-2)^2- 2

= ( 2 ) 2 2 = (2)^2 - 2

= 4 2 = 4 - 2

= 2 = 2

Sumukh Bansal
Nov 9, 2017

It is given that m + 1 m = 2 So m will be 1 \large m+\dfrac{1}{m}= \text{2 So m will be 1} So m 4 + 1 m 4 = 1 + 1 \large m^4+\dfrac{1}{m^4}=1+1 1 + 1 = 2 \Rightarrow 1+1=2

Fahim Saikat
Aug 19, 2017

m + 1 m = 2 m 2 + 1 m = 2 m 2 + 1 = 2 m m 2 2 m + 1 = 0 ( m ) 2 2 × m × 1 + ( 1 ) 2 = 0 ( m 1 ) 2 = 0 m 1 = 0 m = 1 \begin{aligned}m+\frac{1}{m}&=2\\ \frac{m^2+1}{m}&=2\\m^2+1&=2m\\m^2-2m+1&=0\\(m)^2-2\times m \times 1 +(1)^2&=0\\(m-1)^2&=0\\m-1&=0\\m&=1\end{aligned}

Therefore,

m 4 + 1 m 4 = 1 4 + 1 1 4 = 1 + 1 = 2 \begin{aligned}m^4+\frac{1}{m^4}&=1^4+\frac{1}{1^4}\\&=1+1\\&=\boxed{2} \end{aligned}

BONUS : If m + 1 m = 2 m+\frac{1}{m}=2 Then, m p + 1 m q = 2 m^p+\frac{1}{m^q}=2 and, m p 1 m q = 0 m^p-\frac{1}{m^q}=0

Thanks for posting a solution. Can you clarify the '' BONUS ''?

Munem Shahriar - 3 years, 9 months ago

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m = 1 m=1 therefore, m p + 1 m q = 1 p + 1 1 q = 1 + 1 = 2 m^p+\frac{1}{m^q}=1^p+\frac{1}{1^q}=1+1=2

fahim saikat - 3 years, 9 months ago

Another way of solving is by using the AM-GM inequality.

We have: m + 1 m 2 {m}+\frac{1}{{m}} \geq 2

Equality holds when m is equal to 1.

Thus, m 4 + 1 m 4 = 2 {m}^4+\frac{1}{{m}^4} = 2

This is wrong. You need to assume that m and 1/m are positive in order to use AMGM, so all you have done was to show that there is only one solution if both m and 1/m are positive numbers.

Pi Han Goh - 4 years, 2 months ago

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It is not very hard to see why m {m} HAS to be positive in this case.

If m {m} negative, then 1 m \frac{1}{{m}} is also negative, and the sum of these two negative numbers cannot be a positive number.

I'm sorry, but I cannot clearly see why my solution is 'wrong'.

HariPrasad Poilath - 4 years, 2 months ago

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You have only shown that if "m" is positive, then answer is 2, but you haven't ruled out the possibility that "m" can be negative or a non-real number.

Pi Han Goh - 4 years, 2 months ago

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@Pi Han Goh I don't think I'm quite following.

I agree that my answer is incomplete, but in the previous comment, I have hinted as to why m HAS to be a positive number. Yes, the AM-GM inequality holds only when the numbers are positive, and I have not provided the reason as to why m is indeed positive in the answer.

The only assumption on my part was that m is a real number, which in this case is not a very hazardous assumption.

HariPrasad Poilath - 4 years, 2 months ago

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@HariPrasad Poilath No, we can't assume that "m" is real. Why can't "m" be a non-real number, like say x = 3 + 4i?

If however, the question was instead stated as "Find m^4 + 1/m^4 for real m", then your solution is sufficient.

Pi Han Goh - 4 years, 2 months ago

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