Pull, and let go

Find the Time Period of oscillations (in sec \displaystyle \text{sec} ) for the arrangement as shown in the figure.

Details and Assumptions:

  • The pulleys are smooth and massless.
  • k 1 = 100 N / m \displaystyle k_1 = 100 N/m
  • k 2 = 200 N / m \displaystyle k_2 = 200 N/m
  • M = 4 k g \displaystyle M = 4 kg
  • g = 9.8 m / s 2 \displaystyle g = 9.8 m/s^2


The answer is 0.76952.

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2 solutions

Anish Puthuraya
May 29, 2014

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Let the Mass M \displaystyle M be displaced by a distance x \displaystyle x . Let the corresponding extensions in the springs be y \displaystyle y and z \displaystyle z .

It is important to note that the extensions in the springs will NOT be the same. Since the tension in the string that joins the two springs is constant, we have,

T = k 1 y = k 2 z T = k_1y = k_2z

Also, using constraint relations, we get,

y + z = 2 x y+z = 2x

Solve the above two equations to get y \displaystyle y and z \displaystyle z in terms of x \displaystyle x

Now, writing the Force equation for the mass M \displaystyle M ,

2 T M g = M a 2T-Mg = Ma

2 ( k 1 y ) M g = M a 2(k_1y)-Mg = Ma

2 k 1 ( 2 k 2 k 1 + k 2 x ) M g = M a 2k_1 (\frac{2k_2}{k_1+k_2}x)-Mg = Ma

a = 4 k 1 k 2 M ( k 1 + k 2 ) x g a = \frac{4k_1k_2}{M(k_1+k_2)} x - g

Therefore,

w 2 = 4 k 1 k 2 M ( k 1 + k 2 ) w^2 = \frac{4k_1k_2}{M(k_1+k_2)}

w = 4 k 1 k 2 M ( k 1 + k 2 ) w = \sqrt{\frac{4k_1k_2}{M(k_1+k_2)}}

Hence, the Time period will be,

T = 2 π w = 2 π M ( k 1 + k 2 ) 4 k 1 k 2 T = \frac{2\pi}{w} = 2\pi\sqrt{\frac{M(k_1+k_2)}{4k_1k_2}}

Substituting the values provided,

T = 0.76952 sec \boxed{T = 0.76952\text{sec}}

There have been many disputes to this problem..I hope this solution clears up their doubts.

Anish Puthuraya - 7 years ago

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this question correct, i don't know why it was disputed multiple times, could You check your solution for the head right round question.

Beakal Tiliksew - 7 years ago

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It is also correct...There have been a couple of disputes for that problem as well...

Anish Puthuraya - 7 years ago

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@Anish Puthuraya Perhaps, i was the one who claimed it was 7 3 \frac{7}{3} , could u perhaps post a rough solution, so as to start a discussion.

Beakal Tiliksew - 7 years ago

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@Beakal Tiliksew It will take some time though...could you wait for like 12 hrs (since I dont know what time it is there)

Anish Puthuraya - 7 years ago

By the way , this is the exact opposite of a question in D.C Pandey isn't it ? (pg 225 Nos:12 SHM) : P

Arif Ahmed - 6 years, 7 months ago

I dont think there is any mistake. ..I am getting same answer by using the fact that work done by tension is zero

Areej Vk - 7 years ago

Um, it's a very nice problem. From which book did you get it :)

Kenan Saracevic - 5 years, 11 months ago
Josh Silverman Staff
Sep 14, 2015

Another way to approach this is through the Lagrangian.

The kinetic energy is clearly 1 2 M x ˙ 2 \frac12 M \dot{x}^2 .

We have

y + z = 2 x y ˙ + z ˙ = 2 x ˙ \begin{aligned} y+z &= 2x \\ \dot{y} + \dot{z} &= 2\dot{x} \end{aligned}

Since the tension is given by T = k 1 y = k 2 z T = k_1y=k_2z , we have 2 x = T k 1 + T k 2 \displaystyle 2x = \frac{T}{k_1} + \frac{T}{k_2} or T = 2 x k 1 k 2 k 1 + k 2 \displaystyle T = 2x\frac{k_1k_2}{k_1+k_2} .

The potential energy is thus given by V = 2 x 2 k 1 k 2 2 + k 2 2 k 1 ( k 1 + k 2 ) 2 M g x = 2 x 2 k 1 k 2 k 1 + k 2 M g x \displaystyle V = 2x^2\frac{k_1k_2^2 + k_2^2k_1}{\left(k_1+k_2\right)^2} - Mgx= 2x^2\frac{k_1k_2}{k_1+k_2} - Mgx .

The Lagrangian is thus given by

L = 1 2 M x ˙ 2 2 x 2 k 1 k 2 k 1 + k 2 M g x \mathcal{L} = \frac12 M \dot{x}^2 - 2x^2\frac{k_1k_2}{k_1+k_2} - Mgx

which yields the equation of motion

M x ¨ = 4 x k 1 k 2 k 1 + k 2 M\ddot{x} = 4x\frac{k_1k_2}{k_1+k_2}

Showing that ω 2 = 4 M k 1 k 2 k 1 + k 2 \boxed{\displaystyle\omega^2 = \frac{4}{M}\frac{k_1k_2}{k_1+k_2}} as expected.

Actually, the equation of motion obtained from Euler-Lagrange equation is M x ¨ = 4 k 1 k 2 k 1 + k 2 x M g M\ddot{x}=4\dfrac{k_1 k_2}{k_1 + k_2}x - Mg although the frequence is not changed, since we can make a linear change of variables such that we obtain the one you've posted.

Mateus Sampaio - 5 years, 6 months ago

I like this method. Seems straight out of analytical mechanics, Fowles and Cassiday

Jerry McKenzie - 3 years, 1 month ago

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