Pure math, 2 = 1!

Algebra Level 1

Consider the following equation (proved).

a = b a × a = b × a a 2 = a b a 2 b 2 = a b b 2 ( a + b ) ( a b ) = b ( a b ) a + b = b b + b = b 2 b = b 2 = 1 a = b \\ a \times a = b \times a \\ a^{2} = ab \\ a^{2} - b^{2} = ab - b^{2} \\ (a + b)(a - b) = b(a - b) \\ a + b = b \\ b + b = b \\ 2b = b \\ 2 = 1

Is the proof correct?

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4 solutions

J D
Jun 3, 2016

If (a+b)(a-b)=b(a-b), then b=a+b if and only if a-b is not 0. However, the first step in the proof is that a=b, so a-b=0.

Let a-b be anything even "0". a b a b = 1 \frac{a-b}{a-b} = 1

Check again where's wrong.

Viki Zeta - 5 years ago

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Going by the fundamental definition , the expression (a/a = 1) for all real values of a except '0'.

Rishabh Tiwari - 5 years ago

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That's called a math fallacy. Even is a-b = 0, the equation satisfies, so that step is correct. Let me post an answer.

Viki Zeta - 5 years ago

No, this solution is absolutely correct

Hung Woei Neoh - 5 years ago
Rishabh Tiwari
Jun 3, 2016

Given in the question that a=b ,

→ a - b = 0 ,

Therefore after the fourth step, where

(a - b) was cancelled , it was a mistake because in mathematics , division by zero is not possible !

The cancelling step is skipped. So there is no step where I cancelled the (a-b) on both sides. Check again. The fifth step is where it is wrong.

Viki Zeta - 5 years ago

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Ok got this thank you! But maybe the seniors could explain it in some other interesting way.

Rishabh Tiwari - 5 years ago
Viki Zeta
Jun 3, 2016

a = b a b = 0 Now in 5 t h step, We have divided both sides by ( a b ) , ie. dividing by 0 what in turn gives 0 0 . Which is undetermined a=b \\ \implies a-b = 0 \\ \text{Now in } 5^{th} \text{ step, } \text{We have divided both sides by } (a-b) \text{, ie. dividing by 0 what in turn gives } \frac{0}{0}. \text{Which is undetermined}

@Vicky Vignesh Instead of asking if the proof is correct or not, you should have asked which step was wrong. It is obvious that 2 is not equal to 1. So the proof has to be false.

Anuj Shikarkhane - 5 years ago

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Yeah. Still, since this has been proved in a fallacy , users might get confused! So, True / False is better.

Viki Zeta - 5 years ago

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Then please rephrase the question to this ......... proof is correct. Is this statement true or false.

Ashish Menon - 5 years ago

There's still some doubt here , @Calvin Lin sir please comment !

Rishabh Tiwari - 5 years ago

@Ashish Siva , @Svatejas Shivakumar , @Hung Woei Neoh , please do comment & clarify this concept!

Rishabh Tiwari - 5 years ago

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The answer is correct. The steps are all correct till the 6th step. In this they have cancelled off (a - b) from the numerator and the denominator. But if you see the first step, it is stated that a = b a = b . So, a b = 0 a - b = 0 . So, in the fifth step can be written as ( a + b ) × 0 = b × 0 (a + b)×0 = b × 0 . Then we are dividing 0 0 by 0 0 by cancelling off the (a - b)'s. But 0 0 \dfrac{0}{0} is indeterminate. So, this proof is flawed.

Ashish Menon - 5 years ago

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Exactly! thnx for commenting.

Rishabh Tiwari - 5 years ago

Yeah! correct :)

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@A Former Brilliant Member .ʕ•ٹ•ʔ(≧▽≦)

Ashish Menon - 5 years ago

Step 6 is clearly the wrong one. Step 6 is where we cancelled out ( a b ) (a-b) . This means we divided the equation by ( a b ) (a-b) at Step 6. This is equivalent to dividing by 0 0 , which does not exist.

However, the explanation given is wrong. Even if a = 0 a=0 , we cannot divide it like this, because ( a b ) (a-b) would still be 0 0 , which would mean that we're still dividing by 0 0 . The condition should be like this:

We can divide ( a b ) (a-b) if and only if a b 0 a-b \neq 0 , or a b a \neq b

Hung Woei Neoh - 5 years ago

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Yes ur right , thnx for commenting! +1!

Rishabh Tiwari - 5 years ago

I understand that this concept is clear to everyone now! Nice discussion , cheers:)

Rishabh Tiwari - 5 years ago

The step at I which cancelled (a-b) is skipped.

And (a+b)=b only if a=0, so there applies an condition. Its not true for all numbers.

Viki Zeta - 5 years ago

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@Viki Zeta No, you don't just skip a step in proving something. There is no such thing as skipping steps in mathematical proofs.

Hung Woei Neoh - 5 years ago

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@Hung Woei Neoh Just saying which is wrong from given and why. Anyway I agree 0/0 is not defined.

Viki Zeta - 5 years ago

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@Viki Zeta And I'm saying your explanation is not correct. Note that when you multiplied a a to both sides of the equation, you were introducing extra roots to the equation. It's like saying this:

1 = ( 1 ) 2 = 1 = 1 -1 = \sqrt{(-1)^2} = \sqrt{1} = 1

Care must be taken that you have introduced an extra root when you squared the equation. Similarly, over here, you just factorized it out like this

( a + b ) ( a b ) b ( a b ) = 0 ( a + b b ) ( a b ) = 0 a + b b = 0 or a b = 0 (a+b)(a-b) - b(a-b) = 0\\ (a+b-b)(a-b) = 0\\ a+b-b = 0\quad \text{or}\quad a-b= 0

You cannot just assume that a + b = b a+b=b . In fact, it's totally irrelevant here

Hung Woei Neoh - 5 years ago

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@Hung Woei Neoh Nicely explained+1 !

Rishabh Tiwari - 5 years ago
Akeel Howell
Jun 21, 2016

The proof holds up until the second to last line, provided that a = b = 0 a=b=0

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