Quaint Quintic

Algebra Level 2

f ( x ) f(x) is a quintic polynomial such that only 1 of the roots is an integer. It is known that the sum of the coefficients of f f is 0 0 . What is the value of the integer root?

Details and assumptions

A quintic polynomial is a degree 5 polynomial.

You are not given any information about the other roots.


The answer is 1.

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12 solutions

Guillermo Angeris
Nov 10, 2013

Say that we have some polynomial f ( x ) = c k x k + c k 1 x k 1 + + c 0 f(x)=c_kx^{k}+c_{k-1}x^{k-1}+\cdots+c_0 . And, our assumption is: n = 0 k c n = 0 \sum_{n=0}^{k}c_n=0

Remember that our polynomial is of the form: f ( x ) = n = 0 k c n x n f(x)=\sum_{n=0}^{k}c_nx^{n} Letting x = 1 x=1 , we then have: f ( 1 ) = n = 0 k c n 1 n 1 = n = 0 k c n = 0 f(1)=\sum_{n=0}^{k} c_n1^{n-1}=\sum_{n=0}^{k}c_n=0 By our assumption. Hence 1 1 is an integer root of the polynomial.

thank u!

Saradindu Roy - 7 years, 7 months ago

thanks

Rohan Parab - 7 years, 7 months ago

Correct!

Manzoor Shaikh - 7 years, 7 months ago

If it has 2 or 3 integer root, then! Plz define...

Ravi Kumar Gupta - 7 years, 7 months ago

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Oh, that's definitely possible under my solution. I just generalized to show that 1 is always a root, for any polynomial, if its coefficients add to 0.

Guillermo Angeris - 7 years, 7 months ago

I understand everything but there seems to a gap of logic. How can one assume that 1 is the root?

Jorge Rocha - 7 years, 7 months ago

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You don't; you prove it is the root by showing that f ( 1 ) = 0 f(1)=0 .

Guillermo Angeris - 7 years, 7 months ago

I guess assumptions are fine as long as you can prove that the assumption is true (or false for proofs by contradictions) in the end.

Sherry Sarkar - 7 years, 7 months ago

I should note that the indexes need to be corrected. c a c_a should be indexed by 1 a k 1\le a\le k and c a x b c_a x^b should simply be c a x a 1 c_{a}x^{a-1} . Also, in the sums, n n should range from 1 1 to k k , rather than from 0 0 to k 1 k-1 .

The solution still stands with the corrections.

Guillermo Angeris - 7 years, 7 months ago

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It's easier for the coefficient of x i x^i to just be c i c_i . This way, you don't have to mentally keep track of which coefficient and which power lines up.

Calvin Lin Staff - 7 years, 7 months ago

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That works.

Thank you for correcting the answer above.

Guillermo Angeris - 7 years, 7 months ago

can you please explain me please

deepali sharma - 7 years, 7 months ago

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Yes, perhaps it's easier to note an example:

Say we have a quintic polynomial: f ( x ) = a x 5 + b x 4 + c x 3 + d x 2 + e x + f f(x)=ax^5+bx^4+cx^3+dx^2+ex+f Whose sum of coefficients is zero, that is: a + b + c + d + e + f = 0 a+b+c+d+e+f=0 What happens when we evaluate f ( 1 ) f(1) ? Then, we have: f ( 1 ) = a 1 5 + b 1 4 + c 1 3 + d 1 2 + e 1 + f = a + b + c + d + e + f f(1)=a\cdot 1^5+b\cdot 1^4+c\cdot 1^3+d\cdot 1^2+e\cdot 1+f\\=a+b+c+d+e+f But this is our sum of digits and, from what we had previously said, this is zero, hence: f ( 1 ) = a + b + c + d + e + f = 0 f(1)=a+b+c+d+e+f=0 Which is what we wished to show.

Hopefully that clears up this solution.

Guillermo Angeris - 7 years, 7 months ago

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For your above proofs, are you assuming that 1 will work, and then proving the assumption? And is there a way to prove that there are no other integers roots? Thanks!

Sherry Sarkar - 7 years, 7 months ago

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@Sherry Sarkar Yes, essentially, but I would be wary of looking at this solution like that.

And, no, there is no way to do so because it's not necessarily a true statement. I only proved that the only way to have a polynomial's coefficients sum to 0 is for it to have a root at unity.

Clearly, then, any polynomial f ( x ) f(x) of the form: f ( x ) = ( x 1 ) g ( x ) f(x)=(x-1)g(x) satisfies this property (that is, that the sum of its coefficients is zero), which means that there could be other possible integer/rational/real/complex roots that are purely (and only) dependent on g ( x ) g(x) .

If you want, I can prove this statement in a different way to make it more obvious.

Guillermo Angeris - 7 years, 7 months ago

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@Guillermo Angeris I think I get what you're saying here, thanks! Nice proof.

Sherry Sarkar - 7 years, 7 months ago

thanks

Yao Feng Ooi - 7 years, 6 months ago

waa

Anep Gratz - 7 years, 7 months ago

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I'm not sure I understand your question.

Guillermo Angeris - 7 years, 7 months ago
Abin Das
Nov 10, 2013

Sum of coefficients=f(1); Thus f(1)=0;Thus 1 is the integer root.

can you explain it. I didn't understand

vaishnav garg - 7 years, 7 months ago

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If 'a' is a root of a polynomial f(x),then f(a)=0; A polynomial will be of form a x n ax^{n} + b x n 1 bx^{n-1} + c x n 2 cx^{n-2} +... Thus f(1)=a+b+c+....,which is the sum of coefficients.Thus,as the sum of coefficients is 0,f(1)=0 and thus 1 is a root of the polynomial.

Abin Das - 7 years, 7 months ago

plz can u explain it to us??

Rohan Parab - 7 years, 7 months ago

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If 'a' is a root of a polynomial f(x),then f(a)=0; A polynomial will be of form a x n ax^{n} + b x n 1 bx^{n-1} + c x n 2 cx^{n-2} +... Thus f(1)=a+b+c+....,which is the sum of coefficients.Thus,as the sum of coefficients is 0,f(1)=0 and thus 1 is a root of the polynomial.

Abin Das - 7 years, 7 months ago

By using the Factor Theorem which states that x α x-\alpha is a factor of f ( x ) = a n x n + a n 1 x n 1 + + a 0 f(x)=a_{n}x^n+a_{n-1}x^{n-1}+\cdots+a_{0} iff f ( α ) = 0 f(\alpha)=0 . In this case, f ( 1 ) = 0 f(1)=0 , so therefore x 1 x-1 is a factor of f ( x ) f(x) and 1 1 is the integer root.

Tom Zhou - 7 years, 7 months ago

Didn't see that until you pointed it out. Nice solution!

Sherry Sarkar - 7 years, 7 months ago

f ( x ) = a x 5 + b x 4 + c x 3 + d x 2 + e x f(x)=ax^5+bx^4+cx^3+dx^2+ex is such a polynomial. So, a + b + c + d + e = 0 a+b+c+d+e=0

We can conclude that, considering x x with powers are now co-efficients of a , b , c , d , e a,b,c,d,e , we get, x = 1 x=1 is the root.

Describing in the "if and only if" way: f ( 1 ) = a + b + c + d + e = 0 f(1)=a+b+c+d+e=0 , so 1 1 is the root.

Again, if 1 1 is a root, then, f ( 1 ) = a + b + c + d + e = 0 f(1)=a+b+c+d+e=0 , which makes, the answer is 1 1 .

The standard form of a quintic polynomial is f ( x ) = a x 5 + b x 4 + c x 3 + d x 2 + e x + f f(x)=ax^5+bx^4+cx^3+dx^2+ex+f where a 0 a\neq 0 . In your solution, you implicitly assumed that the co-efficient of x 0 x^0 [normally called the constant term] equals zero and that is not a necessary condition for this problem. Just pointing it out :)

Mursalin Habib - 7 years, 7 months ago

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Thanks for that "pointing out".

Sheikh Asif Imran Shouborno - 7 years, 7 months ago
Abrar Nihar
Nov 11, 2013

f ( x ) f(x) is a quantic polynomial with only one integer root... Hence it's a perfect fifth power of an integer... We can write f ( x ) f(x) as: f ( x ) = ( x a ) 5 f(x)=\left(x-a\right)^5 where a a is the integer root... Using binomial expansion formula, we can expand ( x a ) 5 (x-a)^5 and get...

f ( x ) = x 5 5 a x 4 + 10 a 2 x 3 10 a 3 x 2 + 5 a 4 x a 5 f(x)=x^5-5ax^4+10a^2x^3-10a^3x^2+5a^4x-a^5 ... Since, the sum of it's coefficients is 0 0 , we can form an equation...

1 5 a + 10 a 2 10 a 3 + 5 a 4 a 5 = 0 1 - 5a + 10a^2-10a^3+5a^4-a^5=0 ... It's not quite tough to find out the root a = 1 a=1 ...

Hence, the integer root is: 1 \fbox{1} ...

Remark: The given polynomial f f is f ( x ) = ( x 1 ) 2 = x 5 5 x 4 + 10 x 3 10 x 2 + 5 x 1 f(x) = \left(x-1\right)^2 = x^5-5x^4+10x^3-10x^2+5x-1

i think the last one should be f(x)=(x-1)^5

Valerius Evan Ligasetiawan - 7 years, 7 months ago

Can you connect your arguments? Why must f ( x ) = ( x a ) 5 f(x) = (x-a)^5 ? Why can't it have other irrational, or even complex, roots?

Calvin Lin Staff - 7 years, 7 months ago

f ( x ) f(x) is a quintic polynomial with only one integer root... Hence it's a perfect fifth power of an integer... We can write f ( x ) f(x) as: f ( x ) = ( x a ) 5 f(x)=(x-a)^5 where a a is the integer root...

Not necessarily true.

Take this polynomial for example:

f ( x ) = ( x 1 ) ( x + 51 ) ( x π ) ( x + 4 i ) ( x + 2 7 ) f(x)=(x-1)(x+\sqrt{51})(x-\pi)(x+4i)(x+2\sqrt{7}) .

This polynomial satisfies all of the conditions given in the problem. You can expand it to see that the sum of its coefficients is zero [If you don't want to go through the gruesome task, just take my word for it!]. However, this polynomial has irrational and imaginary roots. So what you claimed is not true.

Mursalin Habib - 7 years, 7 months ago

I don't if it's my absence of mind, the question said that f ( x ) f(x) is a polynomial with only one integer root... Now the question is saying that f ( x ) f(x) is a polynomial and only one of it's roots is an integer... Is the question edited??? The first statement is a bit confusing...

Abrar Nihar - 7 years, 7 months ago
Lucas Tell Marchi
Jan 10, 2014

Well, obviously

f ( x ) = n = 0 5 a n x n f(x) = \sum_{n=0}^{5} a_{n}x^{n}

And then

f ( 1 ) = n = 0 5 a n = 0 f(1) = \sum_{n=0}^{5} a_{n} = 0

Then x = 1 x = 1 is a root.

William Cui
Nov 11, 2013

Our polynomial is in the form ( x n ) 5 (x-n)^5 , where n n is our desired root. This is because our polynomial only has one root, so it must be in this form.

The sum of the coefficients of ( x n ) 5 (x-n)^5 can be found by simplifying the whole thing, but there is a much simpler method.

For example, if we want the sum of the coefficients of ( x 2 4 ) ( x + 9 ) (x^2-4)(x+9) , we can just get rid of the x x terms, leave the coefficients, and multiply:

( 1 4 ) ( 1 + 9 ) = 3 10 = 30 (1-4)(1+9) =-3\cdot10=-30 .

Similarly, we want the sum of the coefficients of ( x n ) 5 (x-n)^5 to be equal to 0. Since the x x term has a coefficient of 1, the sum of the coefficients is simply ( 1 n ) 5 (1-n)^5 . If we want this to be equal to 0, we know that 1 n 1-n must be equal to 0, which leads us to n = 1 n=1 . This means that the integer root (which is equal to n n ) is equal to 1 \boxed{1} .

(Note: the polynomial is actually in the form ( a x n ) 5 (ax-n)^5 , because it is not specified that the x x coefficient is 1. However, this does not affect the answer: we will find (in a similar method as above) that the sum of the coefficients is equal to ( a n ) 5 (a-n)^5 , and if we want this to be 0, then a = n a=n , which leads us to n = 1 n=1 .)

i understood it but what method is it actually can you specify the method please

deepali sharma - 7 years, 7 months ago

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Hey, what do you mean "what method"? We know that the form of the quintic is ( a x n ) 5 (ax-n)^5 because then it would be a quintuple root: just like a quadratic is in the form ( b x m ) 2 (bx-m)^2 so it is a double root.

William Cui - 7 years, 7 months ago

This is because our polynomial only has one root

Not true. This polynomial has only one integer root. It can have other roots. They just can't be integers.

Mursalin Habib - 7 years, 7 months ago

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Whoops. Yes, that is what I intended to say.

William Cui - 7 years, 7 months ago
Math Nerd
Nov 17, 2013

Let f f be a quintic polynomial. By definition, t t is a root of f f if and only if f ( t ) = 0 f(t)=0 .

Here is the key step : the sum of the coefficients of f f is equal to f ( 1 ) f(1) , indeed:

Let a 0 , a 1 , . . . , a 5 a_0, a_1, ..., a_5 be the coefficients of f f , f ( 1 ) = a 5 × 1 5 + a 4 × 1 4 + a 3 × 1 3 + a 2 × 1 2 + a 1 × 1 + a 0 = a 0 + a 1 + a 2 + a 3 + a 4 + a 5 f(1)=a_5\times1^5+a_4\times1^4+a_3\times1^3+a_2\times1^2+a_1\times1+a_0=a_0+a_1+a_2+a_3+a_4+a_5 which is the sum of the coefficients of f f .

The problem tells us that the sum of the coefficients of f is 0. So f ( 1 ) = 0 f(1)=0 . As a matter of fact, we can conclude, by the definition of a root, that 1 1 is a root of the quintic polynomial f f

If we take the general equation of a quintic polynomial.. we get sum of coefficient if x=1. When sum of coefficient is zero then x=1 is a root.

1 is always a solution of any polynomial whose coefficients add up to zero. So, answer is "1"

are you sure that 1 is always a solution of any polynomial whose sum of coefficients is 0?

deepali sharma - 7 years, 7 months ago

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Yes; consider the polynomial a x 4 + b x 3 + c x 2 + d x + e = 0 ax^4+bx^3+cx^2+dx+e=0 . The sum of the coefficients is equal to a + b + c + d + e = 0 a+b+c+d+e=0 , and this is the same as when x = 1 x=1

William Cui - 7 years, 7 months ago
Marc Nero
Nov 11, 2013

if F is 0. then the numerical value of x is 1. so f sub x. = 1

Can you explain your thinking step by step?

Calvin Lin Staff - 7 years, 7 months ago
Manzoor Shaikh
Nov 11, 2013

The answer is "1" because only "1" has the one integer root, since the coefficients of f(x) is "0", So if you add +1 and -1 you get zero.

Can you explain your thinking step by step? Can you explain what you mean by "only 1 has the one integer root"?

Calvin Lin Staff - 7 years, 7 months ago
Rushikesh Jogdand
Nov 11, 2013

as the 5 degree has only a root it is an expantiion of (x-a)^{5} where a is its root but 2^{nd} cond^{n} gives us the root to be 1 since the sum of all coefficients of a polyomial which is expansion of a binomial term is 0 only when it is expansion of (x - 1)^{n} i.e. its root is 1.

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