Ques. -5

Algebra Level 5

If α , β \alpha, \beta are the roots of 375 x 2 25 x 2 = 0 375x^2-25x-2=0 and S n = α n + β n S_n=\alpha^n+\beta^n , then find the value of lim n r = 1 n S r \displaystyle \lim_{n \to \infty} \displaystyle \sum_{r=1}^n S_r


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29 358 \frac{29}{358} None of the given values 7 116 \frac{7}{116} 1 12 \frac{1}{12}

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1 solution

Mudit Bansal
Feb 25, 2015

Notice that 1 < α , β < 1 -1<\alpha ,\beta <1 .Hence, on expanding lim n r = 1 n S r \displaystyle \lim_{n \to \infty} \displaystyle \sum_{r=1}^n S_r we get: α + β + α 2 + β 2 + . . . = α 1 α + β 1 β = α + β 2 α β 1 ( α + β ) + α β \alpha +\beta +{ \alpha }^{ 2 }+{ \beta }^{ 2 }+...\\ =\frac { \alpha }{ 1-\alpha } +\frac { \beta }{ 1-\beta } \\ =\frac { \alpha +\beta -2\alpha \beta }{ 1-\left( \alpha +\beta \right) +\alpha \beta } Now on putting sum and product of roots we get: 29 348 = 1 12 \frac { 29 }{ 348 } =\boxed { \frac { 1 }{ 12 } }

How lazy I am?! Darn me! I got the answer till 29 348 \frac{29}{348} but then didn't even bother to factor it and simplify it to 1 12 \frac{1}{12} . Ah!

Kartik Sharma - 6 years, 3 months ago

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Thanks for sharing your experience Kartik ,I'll remember not to make this mistake in JEE !!!

A Former Brilliant Member - 6 years, 3 months ago

same here i have also done this mistake

nikhil jaiswal - 6 years, 3 months ago

same here, perfect options for jee mains. @Sandeep Bhardwaj

Karan Siwach - 6 years, 3 months ago

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yehh, right.

Sandeep Bhardwaj - 6 years, 3 months ago

Same here dude.

Prakash Chandra Rai - 6 years, 2 months ago

SAME HERE !!

Aditya Sky - 5 years, 2 months ago

I agree that 1 12 \frac{1}{12} is a correct option. But, why is 29 348 \frac{29}{348} incorrect? Given that the question is silent about the numerator and denominator being co-prime/or not, I think this problem has two options being valid solutions.

Janardhanan Sivaramakrishnan - 6 years, 3 months ago

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But then if we tick "None of these" making 29 348 \frac{29}{348} correct, it makes 1 12 \frac{1}{12} incorrect which is of course wrong.

Kartik Sharma - 6 years, 3 months ago

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Hey, when are your Boards starting ? Or have they started ?

A Former Brilliant Member - 6 years, 3 months ago

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@A Former Brilliant Member Oh, they have already started. Today was the first. Well, I think you must be knowing that the board system is over now(though it will resume from next year or so)

Kartik Sharma - 6 years, 3 months ago

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@Kartik Sharma Actually I didn't know that . Best of Luck for your other exams :)

If you want , you can comment here .

Gotta go , bye .

A Former Brilliant Member - 6 years, 3 months ago

My point was that the 'incorrect choices' were not properly selected.

If the choices for sin ( π / 6 ) \sin(\pi/6) are given as c o s ( π / 3 ) cos(\pi/3) , 2 4 \frac{2}{4} , 0.5 0.5 and none of these, then the problem is in formulating the options.

Janardhanan Sivaramakrishnan - 6 years, 3 months ago

Hi @Mudit, Could you brief the steps. I got stuck in step after expansion.

Sridhar Muruganandham - 6 years, 3 months ago

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I just used formula for summation of infinite G.P. as both alpha and beta are between -1 and 1

mudit bansal - 6 years, 3 months ago

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Thanks. How you get 29 and 348? How you find sum and product

Sridhar Muruganandham - 6 years, 3 months ago

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@Sridhar Muruganandham α + β = b a , α β = c a \alpha + \beta = \dfrac{-b}{a} , \alpha\beta= \dfrac{c}{a}

sandeep Rathod - 6 years, 3 months ago

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@Sandeep Rathod Thanks @sandeep

Sridhar Muruganandham - 6 years, 3 months ago

Doing Great..keep it up @mudit bansal

Sandeep Bhardwaj - 6 years, 3 months ago

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Thank you,sir

mudit bansal - 6 years, 3 months ago

Amazing solution!! Upvoted!

Archit Boobna - 6 years, 2 months ago

A suggestion is that you modify the question to "to write the answer in the simplest form" this would save a lot of incorrect answers since the objective of the questions presented here are to test mathematical knowledge not to check the computational ability of an individual. An example where logic is more important the Computation.

Sarthak Sahoo - 1 year, 7 months ago

Oh my bad... I got 29 348 \frac {29} {348} , then carelessly ticked 29 358 \frac {29} {358}

Tín Phạm Nguyễn - 6 years, 3 months ago

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