Raging Roots

Algebra Level 3

1 1 2 2 3 3 4 4 \Large \sqrt[1]{1} \qquad \sqrt[2]{2} \qquad \sqrt[3]{3} \qquad \sqrt[4]{4}

Without using a calculator, compare the numbers above. Which of the following options is true?

4 4 = 2 2 > 3 3 > 1 1 \sqrt[4]{4} = \sqrt[2]{2} > \sqrt[3]{3} > \sqrt[1]{1} 2 2 = 4 4 > 3 3 > 1 1 \sqrt[2]{2} = \sqrt[4]{4} > \sqrt[3]{3} > \sqrt[1]{1} 1 1 > 2 2 = 3 3 = 4 4 \sqrt[1]{1} > \sqrt[2]{2} = \sqrt[3]{3} = \sqrt[4]{4} 3 3 > 4 4 > 2 2 > 1 1 \sqrt[3]{3} > \sqrt[4]{4} > \sqrt[2]{2} > \sqrt[1]{1} 4 4 > 3 3 > 2 2 > 1 1 \sqrt[4]{4} > \sqrt[3]{3} > \sqrt[2]{2} > \sqrt[1]{1} 1 1 = 2 2 = 3 3 = 4 4 \sqrt[1]{1} = \sqrt[2]{2} = \sqrt[3]{3} = \sqrt[4]{4} 3 3 > 2 2 = 4 4 > 1 1 \sqrt[3]{3} > \sqrt[2]{2} = \sqrt[4]{4} > \sqrt[1]{1} 1 1 > 2 2 > 3 3 > 4 4 \sqrt[1]{1} > \sqrt[2]{2} > \sqrt[3]{3} > \sqrt[4]{4}

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5 solutions

Let \square represent the inequality/equality signs.Then: 1 1 2 2 3 3 4 4 \sqrt[1]{1}\;\square \;\sqrt[2]{2}\;\square \;\sqrt[3]{3}\;\square\;\sqrt[4]{4} Since all the terms are positive,raising them all to the 1 2 th 12^{\text{th}} power preserves their ordering.Doing so yields: ( 1 1 ) 12 ( 2 2 ) 12 ( 3 3 ) 12 ( 4 4 ) 12 1 64 81 64 (\sqrt[1]{1})^{12}\;\square (\sqrt[2]{2})^{12}\;\square \;(\sqrt[3]{3})^{12}\;\square\; (\sqrt[4]{4})^{12}\\ 1\;\square \;64\;\square\; 81\;\square \;64 Since 64 = 64 64=64 ,we get that 4 4 = 2 2 \sqrt[4]{4}=\sqrt[2]{2} .Also,since 81 > 64 81>64 and 64 > 1 64>1 we know that 3 3 > 2 2 = 4 4 \sqrt[3]{3}>\sqrt[2]{2}=\sqrt[4]{4} and that 2 2 = 4 4 > 1 \sqrt[2]{2}=\sqrt[4]{4}>1 .Combing these inequalities, we get: 3 3 > 4 4 = 2 2 > 1 1 \boxed{\sqrt[3]{3}>\sqrt[4]{4}=\sqrt[2]{2}>\sqrt[1]{1}}

This is the best of all :)(+1)

Rohit Udaiwal - 5 years ago

Same solution :) , +1

Novril Razenda - 4 years, 11 months ago
Akash Patalwanshi
May 19, 2016

Relevant wiki: Exponential Inequalities

1 1 = 1 , 2 = 2 1 2 = 4 1 4 , \large 1^1 = 1, \sqrt{2} = 2^{\frac{1}{2}} = 4^{\frac{1}{4}}, ( 2 1 2 ) 2 = 2 < ( 3 1 3 ) 2 = 3 2 3 \large (2^{\frac{1}{2}})^2 = 2 < (3^{\frac{1}{3}})^2= 3^{\frac{2}{3}} 2 1 2 < 3 1 3 →2^{\frac{1}{2}} < 3^{\frac{1}{3}}

that is, 3 1 3 > 2 1 2 3^{\frac{1}{3}} > 2^{\frac{1}{2}}

Thus, 3 1 3 > 2 1 2 = 4 1 4 > 1 1 \large 3^{\frac{1}{3}} > 2^{\frac{1}{2}} = 4^{\frac{1}{4}} > 1^1

We get an accurate answer if we raise to the power of 12.

Samara Simha Reddy - 5 years ago

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Or power of 6

Hung Woei Neoh - 5 years ago

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Yeah even power 6 will be great!

Samara Simha Reddy - 5 years ago

Wait, how do you even know that 2 < 3 2 3 2 < 3^{\frac{2}{3}} ???

Hung Woei Neoh - 5 years ago

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Let's compare 2 1 2 2^{\frac{1}{2}} and 3 1 3 3^{\frac{1}{3}} .Making the denominators of the exponents equal,we get 2 3 6 2^{\frac{3}{6}} and 3 2 6 3^{\frac{2}{6}} .Clearly, 3 2 6 > 2 3 6 3^{\frac{2}{6}}>2^{\frac{3}{6}} .As the finishing step,raise both sides by 6 3 \dfrac{6}{3} to get 3 2 6 6 3 > 2 3 6 6 3 3^{\frac{2}{6}\cdot\frac{6}{3}}>2^{\frac{3}{6}\cdot\frac{6}{3}} . 3 2 3 > 2 \therefore 3^{\frac{2}{3}}>2

Rohit Udaiwal - 5 years ago

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Oh, thanks for explaning

Hung Woei Neoh - 5 years ago

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@Hung Woei Neoh :-) if we provide details to each steps solution would get long and doesn't look cool. The reason for 2 < 3 2 3 2 < 3^{\frac{2}{3}} is explained very clearly by Rohit.

akash patalwanshi - 5 years ago

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@Akash Patalwanshi You should probably explain every step clearly,though not in detail,but a slight sketch will work.A role of a solution is to explain the steps in short yet fluent.Nevertheless,good job!

Rohit Udaiwal - 5 years ago

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@Rohit Udaiwal Yes. I am beginner in Latex typing. For typing above solution, I had spend more than 15 minutes :-(. Thats the main reason otherwise I could provide the solution with full details.

akash patalwanshi - 5 years ago

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@Akash Patalwanshi Oh no problem,I remember taking 30 minutes to write a solution for this problem.Lol :D

Rohit Udaiwal - 5 years ago

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@Rohit Udaiwal I remember writing a solution which took me 45 minutes ti write.Deleted it though because it was brute force.

Abdur Rehman Zahid - 5 years ago

@Akash Patalwanshi No worries. It takes time to learn and master LaTeX \LaTeX writing. I learn faster because I have taken programming courses. It's good that you try to learn and get used to it.

I have written extremely long solutions, like this , this , this and this . Actually, as a matter of fact, my solutions are usually very long. I prefer it that way though, it makes my solution clearer. These 4 are the extra long ones, which took me about an hour for each of them.

Hung Woei Neoh - 5 years ago

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@Hung Woei Neoh Thanks. I will try to become perfect in latex typing soon. :-)

akash patalwanshi - 5 years ago
Hung Woei Neoh
May 20, 2016

1 1 = 1 2 2 = 2 1 2 3 3 = 3 1 3 4 4 = ( 2 2 ) 1 4 = 2 1 2 \sqrt[1]{1} = 1\\ \sqrt[2]{2} = 2^{\frac{1}{2}}\\ \sqrt[3]{3} = 3^{\frac{1}{3}}\\ \sqrt[4]{4} = (2^2)^{\frac{1}{4}} = 2^{\frac{1}{2}}

From here, we know that 2 2 = 4 4 \sqrt[2]{2}=\sqrt[4]{4}

Now, we need to compare three numbers. We take the sixth power of these numbers:

1 6 = 1 ( 2 1 2 ) 6 = 2 3 = 8 ( 3 1 3 ) 6 = 3 2 = 9 1^6 = 1\\ (2^{\frac{1}{2}})^6 = 2^3 = 8\\ (3^{\frac{1}{3}})^6 = 3^2 = 9

We know that:

9 > 8 > 1 9 1 6 > 8 1 6 > 1 1 6 3 1 3 > 2 1 2 > 1 3 3 > 2 2 = 4 4 > 1 1 9 > 8 > 1\\ 9^{\frac{1}{6}} > 8^{\frac{1}{6}} > 1^{\frac{1}{6}}\\ 3^{\frac{1}{3}} > 2^{\frac{1}{2}} > 1\\ \boxed{\sqrt[3]{3} > \sqrt[2]{2} = \sqrt[4]{4} > \sqrt[1]{1}}

Akash Shukla
May 20, 2016

This problem is of type y = x 1 x y=x^\frac{1}{x} . , which has its maximum value ay x=e. y = x 1 x ( 1 l n x ) x 2 y'= \frac{x^\frac{1}{x}*(1-lnx)}{x^2} From 0 < x < e 0<x<e , it is increasing. From e < x < i n f i n i t e e<x<infinite it is decreasing. So 1 1 < 2 1 / 2 1^1 < 2^1/2 . 3 1 / 3 > 4 1 / 4 = 2 1 / 2 > 1 1 3^1/3 > 4^1/4 =2^1/2 > 1^1

Chintan Raiyani
Jun 3, 2016

1 1 = 1 12 2 2 = 64 12 3 3 = 81 12 4 4 = 64 12 ( 81 12 = 3 3 ) > ( 64 12 = 2 2 ) = ( 64 12 = 4 4 ) > ( 1 12 = 1 1 ) \sqrt[1]{1} = \sqrt[12]{1} \\ \sqrt[2]{2} = \sqrt[12]{64} \\ \sqrt[3]{3} = \sqrt[12]{81} \\ \sqrt[4]{4} = \sqrt[12]{64} \\ (\sqrt[12]{81} = \sqrt[3]{3}) > (\sqrt[12]{64} = \sqrt[2]{2}) = (\sqrt[12]{64} = \sqrt[4]{4}) > (\sqrt[12]{1} = \sqrt[1]{1})

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