Suppose a triangle with side lengths a , b , c has an inradius r = 1 , a circumradius R = 3 and a semiperimeter s = 7 .
Find a 2 + b 2 + c 2 .
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In general, a 2 + b 2 + c 2 = 2 s 2 − 2 r 2 − 8 R r .
Woah, this is a nice little identity. How did you come up with that? And how do you know if such a triangle exists in the first place?
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I saw it somewhere, and it's not hard to verify using the usual formulas. Obviously, the identity makes sense only if there exists such a triangle in the first place.
Inradius r = s A , Circumradius R = 4 A a b c ⟶ a b c = 4 A R
A A 2 A × s A A r A r A r − ( a b + a c + b c ) s a b + a c + b c a b + a c + b c a b + a c + b c a b + a c + b c = s ( s − a ) ( s − b ) ( s − c ) = s ( s − a ) ( s − b ) ( s − c ) = ( s − a ) ( s − b ) ( s − c ) = ( s − a ) ( s − b ) ( s − c ) = s 3 − ( a + b + c ) s 2 + ( a b + a c + b c ) s − a b c = s 3 − ( 2 s ) s 2 + ( a b + a c + b c ) s − 4 A R = s 3 − 2 s 3 − A r − 4 A R = − s − s 3 − A r − 4 A R = s 2 + s A × r + 4 × s A × R = s 2 + r × r + 4 × r × R = s 2 + r 2 + 4 R r
Then,
a 2 + b 2 + c 2 a 2 + b 2 + c 2 a 2 + b 2 + c 2 a 2 + b 2 + c 2 = ( a + b + c ) 2 − 2 ( a b + a c + b c ) = ( 2 s ) 2 − 2 ( s 2 + r 2 + 4 R r ) = 4 s 2 − 2 s 2 − 2 r 2 − 8 R r = 2 s 2 − 2 r 2 − 8 R r
So, a 2 + b 2 + c 2 = 2 × 7 2 − 2 × 1 2 − 8 × 3 × 1 = 7 2
Nice proof of the identity Jon Haussmann mentioned. :)
@Brian Charlesworth Thank you, sir!
It's a right triangle of sides ( 4 + 2 , 4 − 2 , 6 ) , which has a semi-perimeter of 7 , an inradius of 1 , and a circumradius of 3 . So, the sum of the squares of the sides is the same as twice the square of the hypotenuse, or 7 2
Huh. A funny thing happened on the way to creating a real triangle; I made a right one. :p
P.S.. Ratul deleted his question and didn't repost so I thought it was worthwhile to do the reposting myself.
It's a right triangle of sides ( 4 + 2 , 4 − 2 , 6 ) ...
How did you find this?
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You know the cubic equation that has its roots as a,b and c.By rational root theorem, we see that 6 is a root of the cubic equation. Remaining two roots can be found by solving the resulting quadratic equation which is obtained by dividing the cubic equation by (x - 6).
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What cubic equation?
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@Pi Han Goh – Read my solution.
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@Indraneel Mukhopadhyaya – But you didn't show that there exists a triangle with sides a,b,c that satisfy these conditions.
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@Pi Han Goh – The solutions of the cubic equation that I have found do represent the sides of a triangle as per the triangle inequality. If at all a triangle would not have been possible, then the solutions of the cubic equation would violate the triangle inequality,and since that is not happening in this case, it shows that the triangle does exist with its side lengths equal to the roots of the cubic equation.
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@Indraneel Mukhopadhyaya – No, you have only shown that one of the roots/sides is 6. For completeness, you need to show that the other two roots/sides are positive numbers. And that you must show that these 3 roots/sides satisfy the triangle inequality so that a triangle actually exist.
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@Pi Han Goh – I think now your question has been answered as to how those side lengths are obtained.
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@Indraneel Mukhopadhyaya – Yes, by reading your solution. Thanks
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We will work with the formulas r = s 1 s ( s − a ) ( s − b ) ( s − c ) for the inradius and R = 4 s r a b c for the circumradius .
From the second equation we see that 3 = 4 × 7 × 1 a b c ⟹ a b c = 8 4 .
From the first equation we see that
1 = 7 1 7 ( 7 − a ) ( 7 − b ) ( 7 − c ) ⟹ 7 = ( 7 − a ) ( 7 − b ) ( 7 − c ) ⟹
7 = ( 4 9 − 7 ( a + b ) + a b ) ( 7 − c ) = 3 4 3 − 4 9 ( a + b + c ) + 7 ( a b + a c + b c ) − a b c .
Substituting in a + b + c = 2 s = 1 4 and a b c = 8 4 and simplifying yields that
7 = 3 4 3 − 4 9 × 1 4 + 7 ( a b + a c + b c ) − 8 4 ⟹ a b + a c + b c = 6 2 .
So a 2 + b 2 + c 2 = ( a + b + c ) 2 − 2 ( a b + a c + b c ) = 1 4 2 − 2 × 6 2 = 7 2 .
Edit: Note that, as Michael Mendrin points out in his solution, such a triangle does exist and has side lengths 4 − 2 , 4 + 2 , 6 .