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Algebra Level 2

Are there any real solutions for the following equation?

√(X - 1) = X + 1

Ambiguous Yes No

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2 solutions

Mohammad Farhat
Nov 6, 2018

If we square both sides we get:

X 1 = ( X + 1 ) 2 X-1 = (X+1)^2 we can expand ( X + 1 ) 2 = X 2 + 2 X + 1 \displaystyle (X+1)^2 = X^2 + 2X + 1 [ The Binomial Theorem ] and we get the equation: X 1 = X 2 + 2 X + 1 X-1 = X^2 + 2X + 1 Adding 1 to both sides would yield X = X 2 + 2 X + 2 X = X^2 + 2X + 2 subtracting X X from both sides gives us: 0 = X 2 + X + 2 0 = X^2 + X + 2 and clearly this is a quadratic equation whose two roots are (approximately) X 1 = 0.5 + 1.3228756555322953 i X_1=-0.5 + -1.3228756555322953i and X 2 = 0.5 + 1.3228756555322953 i X_2 = -0.5 + 1.3228756555322953i which is clearly not real.


I derived the two roots from the equation:

X = 1 ± 1 2 4 ( 1 ) ( 2 ) N O T R E A L 2 ( 1 ) = 0.5 + 1.3228756555322953 i X = \frac{-1 \pm \overbrace{\sqrt{1^2 - 4(1)(2)}}^{NOT \ REAL}}{2(1)} = -0.5 + 1.3228756555322953i _\square


This was real simple! Get it?

Henry U
Nov 7, 2018

The square root of a real number is only real if the real number is positive. Since we're subtracting 1 1 from x x under the square root, x x must be greater than or eaqual to 1 1 for the square root to be real. For y 1 , y R y \geq 1, y \in \mathbb{R} , y y \sqrt{y} \leq y , so x 1 x 1 < x + 1 \sqrt{x-1} \leq x-1 < x+1 , so the right side is always strictly greater than the left side and therefore the equation has no real solutions.

I really hope that your solution is simplified

Mohammad Farhat - 2 years, 7 months ago

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What do you mean by simplified? The solution is exactly my way of solving the problem, though a little bit more difficult to explain.

Henry U - 2 years, 7 months ago

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Bit hard for me to understand

Mohammad Farhat - 2 years, 7 months ago

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@Mohammad Farhat I noticed y < y \sqrt{y} < y for y > 1 y > 1 ( y y is just some real number), so of course y 1 < y + 1 \sqrt{y-1} < y+1 too (Adding 1 1 to the greater side and subtracting 1 1 under the square root doesn't change the inequality). So, for x > 1 x > 1 , the inequality is true and therefore there are no solutions.

In the case x < 1 x < 1 , the square root is not real, but x + 1 x+1 is, so this can't be a solution.

Finally, the case x = 1 x = 1 can be simply checked and \sqrt{1-1} \neq 1+1 ).

Again, explaining all cases and conditions is difficult, but when I solved the problem, I only thought about x > 1 x > 1 and ruled out x 1 x \leq 1 .

Henry U - 2 years, 7 months ago

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