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A A is positive and A × A × A = 8 × 8 × 8 × 8 A\times A \times A = 8\times 8\times 8\times 8 .

What is A × A × A × A ? A\times A \times A \times A ?

16 × 16 × 16 × 16 16\times16\times16\times16 8 × 8 × 8 × 8 × 8 8\times 8\times 8\times 8\times 8 4 × 4 × 4 × 4 × 4 × 4 4\times 4\times 4\times 4\times 4\times 4

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4 solutions

Richard Costen
Mar 21, 2017

A 3 = 8 4 = ( 2 3 ) 4 = ( 2 4 ) 3 = 1 6 3 A^3=8^4=(2^3)^4=(2^4)^3=16^3

Since A x A x A = 16 x 16 x 16

A x A x A x A = 16 x 16 x 16 x 16

Rahil Sehgal
Mar 21, 2017

Very neat and clear work! Thanks!

Here's a bonus question for you:

If A A is not necessarily a positive number, must A × A × A × A A\times A \times A\times A be equal to 16 × 16 × 16 × 16 16\times 16\times16\times16 ONLY? Why or why not?

Pi Han Goh - 4 years, 2 months ago

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No, A A can also have 16 -16 as its value as ( 16 ) × ( 16 ) × ( 16 ) × ( 16 ) (-16) \times (-16) \times(-16 )\times(-16 ) has the same value as 1 6 4 16^{4} which is A 4 A^{4}

Rahil Sehgal - 4 years, 2 months ago

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But if A = 16 A = -16 , then A × A × A = 8 × 8 × 8 × 8 A\times A\times A= 8\times8\times8\times8 is no longer true.

Pi Han Goh - 4 years, 2 months ago

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@Pi Han Goh Oh sorry... I didn't notice that... Then A A can only have positive value..

Rahil Sehgal - 4 years, 2 months ago

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@Rahil Sehgal But, can A A be a non-real number, like say A = 1 + i A = 1 + i ? Why or why not?

Pi Han Goh - 4 years, 2 months ago

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@Pi Han Goh Let, suppose A = a + i b A= a+ib

Then A 3 = ( ( 2 ) 3 ) 4 A^{3} = ((2)^{3})^{4}

This gives us that a + i b = 16 a+ib = 16

Therefore b = 0 b = 0 and A = a = 16 A = a = 16 This proves that A A is positive integer.

Rahil Sehgal - 4 years, 2 months ago

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@Rahil Sehgal No, that's incorrect. The solution for x 3 = 1 x^3 = 1 are x = 1 , 1 ± 3 i 2 x = 1, \dfrac{1 \pm \sqrt{3} i }2 . So, can you find the other solutions for A 3 = 1 6 3 A^3 = 16^3 ?

Pi Han Goh - 4 years, 2 months ago

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@Pi Han Goh I have added a note to my solution... Hope that clarifies.. :)

Also please try my set JEE mathematics

Rahil Sehgal - 4 years, 2 months ago

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@Rahil Sehgal Yes! That's great.

Minor nitpicking: It shouldn't be "If A A is unreal...", but it should be "If A A is not necessarily a real number, then the other solutions are..."

Hope you enjoyed this question~~

Pi Han Goh - 4 years, 2 months ago

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@Pi Han Goh Okay.. thank you :)

Rahil Sehgal - 4 years, 2 months ago

A × A × A = 8 × 8 × 8 × 8 A \times A \times A = 8 \times 8 \times 8 \times 8

A 3 = 8 4 = 4096 A^3=8^4=4096

Raising both sides to 1 3 \frac{1}{3} gives

A = 16 A=16

So

A × A × A × A = 16 × 16 × 16 × 16 A \times A \times A \times A = 16 \times 16 \times 16 \times 16

Munem Shahriar
Jan 26, 2018

8 4 = ( 2 3 ) 4 = ( 2 4 ) 3 = 1 6 3 8^4 = (2^3)^4 = (2^4)^3 = 16^3

That means A = 16 A = 16 . Hence A 4 = 1 6 4 A^4 = \boxed{16^4}

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