Revisiting Polynomials

Algebra Level 3

What is the minimum value of the polynomial p ( x ) = 3 x 2 5 x + 2 p(x)={ 3x }^{ 2 }-5x+2 ?

Give your answer up to 3 decimal places.


The answer is -0.083.

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4 solutions

Rishabh Tiwari
Jun 20, 2016

Minimum value of a quadratic equation (whose a > 0 a> 0 ) occurs at

x = b 2 a \boxed {x= \dfrac {-b}{2a}}

and is equal to :

f m i n = 4 a c b 2 4 a \color{#3D99F6}{\boxed{f_{min}= \dfrac {4ac-b^2}{4a}}}

Substituting the given values we get:

f m i n = 1 12 f_{min}= \dfrac {-1}{12}

= 0.083 = \color{#20A900}{\boxed {-0.083}}

Perfect one. (+1)

Ashish Menon - 4 years, 12 months ago

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Thanx ! :-)

Rishabh Tiwari - 4 years, 11 months ago
Rishabh Jain
Jun 20, 2016

p ( x ) = 3 ( x 5 6 ) 2 + ( 1 12 ) p(x)=3\left(x-\dfrac{5}{6}\right)^2+\left(-\dfrac{1}{12}\right)

(See Completing the squares )

Since square of a real quantity is always non negative. ( p ( x ) ) min = 1 12 0.0833 @ x = 5 6 \therefore\left(p(x)\right)_{\text{min}}=\dfrac{-1}{12}\approx-0.0833@x=\dfrac 56

Well, I agree that its nice one but this solution makes the question magical. Its not pretty obvious that p ( x ) p(x) is of that form immediately.

Ashish Menon - 4 years, 12 months ago

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So at least its not as magical as the direct formula.... And for the completing the square thing I don't think that something can be more obvious than that which is the starting point from where analysis of quadratic equations begins.. Anyways I have added a relevant wiki..

Rishabh Jain - 4 years, 12 months ago

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Well thanks for adding the wiki. Well, I like your approach which is why I upvoted your solution. I was just mentioning that when it gets too complicated its not pretty obvious. Anyways, thanks for a nice approach :)

Ashish Menon - 4 years, 12 months ago

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@Ashish Menon No problem... BTW I didn't down voted you..

Rishabh Jain - 4 years, 12 months ago

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@Rishabh Jain Hehe, yeah ok, I welcome downvotes, they help me improve:)

Ashish Menon - 4 years, 12 months ago
Achal Jain
Jun 20, 2016

To calculate the minimum value first we would have to find the point at which its derivative is 0.

Derivative is d ( 3 x 2 5 x + 2 ) d x = 6 x 5 \frac { d({ 3x }^{ 2 }-5x+2) }{ dx } =6x-5 . Then 6 x 5 = 0 6x-5=0 . This occurs at point x = 5 6 x=\frac { -5 }{ 6 }

Hence then just plug the value in the polynomial p(x). You would get 1 12 \frac { -1 }{ 12 } which is -0.083.

Nice method ,+1!

Rishabh Tiwari - 4 years, 12 months ago

Hi, I believe the point Where the minimal values is obtained is 5/6. But the rest of the solution is correct. I think you just made a slight typo in the solution above.

Arne Van Antwerpen - 4 years, 12 months ago

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Right its a typo.

Rishabh Tiwari - 4 years, 12 months ago

Small typo its x=5/6 not -5/6 . btw you in jaipur which class ?

Chirayu Bhardwaj - 4 years, 12 months ago

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i am in 10th class and you?

Achal Jain - 4 years, 12 months ago

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i m in 10th only. btw you know deepansh sir(actually he teaches me all this stuff , intelligent 1)

Chirayu Bhardwaj - 4 years, 12 months ago

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@Chirayu Bhardwaj Deepansh Jindal? If you are talking about him then you are 100% correct.

Achal Jain - 4 years, 12 months ago

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@Achal Jain bhai kyu maje leh rha .... check @Chirayu Bhardwaj sir's brillant stats you will get to know who is teacher and who is son...

Deepansh Jindal - 4 years, 12 months ago

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@Deepansh Jindal After seeing his stats I think He is also Way above my league! Geniuses! Claps!

Achal Jain - 4 years, 12 months ago

@Achal Jain hey achal come on fb . i have sent u request. we'll group chat.

Chirayu Bhardwaj - 4 years, 12 months ago

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chirayu sir ki jai ho ... !!!!!!!!

Deepansh Jindal - 4 years, 12 months ago

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@Deepansh Jindal Not such actually :/ ! you well know sir , see ur stats !!

Chirayu Bhardwaj - 4 years, 12 months ago

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@Chirayu Bhardwaj Stats are just numbers , attitude's the key. Achal Jain
:-)

Achal Jain - 4 years, 12 months ago

@Deepansh Jindal Deepansh Don't be modest yaar, Such maan le You are way above my league!

Achal Jain - 4 years, 12 months ago

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@Achal Jain exactly ! it is

Chirayu Bhardwaj - 4 years, 12 months ago

@Achal Jain bhai kyu maje le rha hai have a look at @Chirayu Bhardwaj sir's stats and compare it with mine ... you will get to know ...

Deepansh Jindal - 4 years, 12 months ago

Shouldn't the point be positive 5/6?

Roberto Gallotta - 4 years, 12 months ago

aur achal bhai kya halchal...

Deepansh Jindal - 4 years, 12 months ago

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Tu bata yaar Let's chat on fb then

Achal Jain - 4 years, 12 months ago

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tu kha jaa rha hai abhi ...???

Deepansh Jindal - 4 years, 12 months ago

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@Deepansh Jindal kahi nahi dude Yeh saal aise hi gujarunga Problem solve kar li thi kya?

Achal Jain - 4 years, 12 months ago

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@Achal Jain bhai tune allen kyu chodd diya

Deepansh Jindal - 4 years, 12 months ago
Sudoku Subbu
Jun 26, 2016

Let us consider the given equation as y = 3 x 2 5 x + 2 y=3x^2-5x+2 . d y d x = d d x ( 3 x 2 5 x + 2 ) = 6 x 5 \frac{dy}{dx}=\frac{d}{dx} (3x^2-5x+2)=6x-5 I f 6 x 5 = 0 T h e n x = 5 6 If \space 6x-5=0 \space Then \space x=\frac{5}{6} Substitute x = 5 6 x=\frac{5}{6} in the given equation = > y = 3 ( 5 6 ) 2 5 ( 5 6 ) + 2 = 1 12 = 0.083 => y=3\left(\frac{5}{6}\right)^2-5\left(\frac{5}{6}\right)+2=\frac{-1}{12}=-0.083 d 2 d x 2 ( 3 x 2 5 x + 2 ) = 6 > 0 \frac{d^2}{dx^2}\left(3x^2-5x+2\right)=6>0 Therefore Y is minimum at x = 5 6 \frac{5}{6} Therefore the minima of the following Equation is 0.83 \boxed{-0.83}

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