RMO 2015!! #5

Algebra Level 5

If x , y x,y are non-zero numbers with x 2 + x y + y 2 = 0 x^2 + xy + y^2 = 0 . Find :

( x x + y ) 2001 + ( y x + y ) 2001 . \left( \frac{x}{ x+y } \right)^{2001} + \left( \frac{y}{x+y}\right) ^ { 2001}.


The answer is -2.

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3 solutions

Surya Prakash
Sep 25, 2015

Let ω \omega denote complex(non-real) root of unity.

Since x , y 0 x,y \neq 0 . So,

( x y ) 2 + x y + 1 = 0 \left(\dfrac{x}{y} \right)^{2} + \dfrac{x}{y} + 1 = 0

So, x y = ω \dfrac{x}{y} = \omega

So, ( x x + y ) 2001 + ( y x + y ) 2001 = ( 1 1 + 1 ω ) 2001 ( 1 1 + ω ) 2001 \left(\dfrac{x}{x+y}\right)^{2001} + \left(\dfrac{y}{x+y}\right)^{2001} =\left(\dfrac{1}{1+\dfrac{1}{\omega}}\right)^{2001} \left(\dfrac{1}{1+\omega}\right)^{2001} = ( ω ) 2001 + ( ω 2 ) 2001 (-\omega)^{2001} + (-\omega ^2)^{2001} = 2 \boxed{-2} .

Moderator note:

It is not necessarily true that x y = ω \frac{x}{y} = \omega . It is only true when x = ω 2 x = \omega^2 and y = ω y = \omega .

We could still have x y = ω 2 \frac{x}{y} = \omega^2 .

We have 0 = ( 2 x + y ) ( x 2 + x y + y 2 ) 0=(2x+y)(x^2+xy+y^2) = x 3 + ( x + y ) 3 =x^3+(x+y)^3 , so that ( x + y ) 3 = x 3 = y 3 (x+y)^3=-x^3=-y^3 and ( x + y ) 2001 = x 2001 = y 2001 (x+y)^{2001}=-x^{2001}=-y^{2001} . Now x 2001 + y 2001 ( x + y ) 2001 = x 2001 + x 2001 x 2001 = 2 \frac{x^{2001}+y^{2001}}{(x+y)^{2001}}=\frac{x^{2001}+x^{2001}}{-x^{2001}}=-2

Otto Bretscher - 5 years, 8 months ago

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Nice solution Sir.

Shreyash Rai - 5 years, 5 months ago

Did the exact same...

Aditya Kumar - 5 years ago

How is -x^3=-y^3?????

erica phillips - 3 years ago

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Because x x and y y are symmetric in the question, if we know that ( x + y ) 3 = x 3 (x+y)^3 = - x^3 (from the first equation), then, similarly ( x + y ) 3 = y 3 (x+y)^3 = - y^3 .

You can show this directly by writing out the symmetric first equation: 0 = ( 2 y + x ) ( y 2 + y x + x 2 ) = y 3 + ( y + x ) 3 0 = (2y+x)(y^2+yx+x^2) = y^3 + (y+x)^3 .

Calvin Lin Staff - 3 years ago

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@Calvin Lin Thank u so much!!!!

erica phillips - 3 years ago

wow i never thought of that

Kaustubh Miglani - 5 years, 8 months ago

Awesome solution!

Adarsh Kumar - 5 years, 8 months ago

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a more elementary solution by vieta and newton sum

Dev Sharma - 5 years, 8 months ago

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I don't see how any solution can be easier than this.Maybe because you haven't yet learnt Complex numbers.

Adarsh Kumar - 5 years, 8 months ago

nice one!!!!

Dev Sharma - 5 years, 8 months ago

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Dev, please ensure that your equations are displayed without ambiguity. Saying (y/x+y ) would mean y x + y \frac{y}{x} + y , as opposed to y x + y \frac{y}{x+y} .

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 8 months ago

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We can say that x=y as , x²+xy+y²=0 , (x-y)(x²+y²+xy)=0 , x³-y³=0 x=y , Now on putting x=y we get (0.5)^2000 ,

Wasif Jawad Hussain - 5 years, 8 months ago

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@Wasif Jawad Hussain Why can we say that? What is the value of x = y x = y that would yield you a solution to x 2 + x y + y 2 x^2 + xy + y^2 ? Note that solutions to x 2 + x y + y 2 = 0 x^2 + xy + y^2 = 0 are a subset of solutions to ( x y ) ( x 2 + x y + y 2 ) = 0 (x-y) (x^2 + xy + y^2 ) = 0 , and you have introduced extraneous solutions when you multiplied by x y x-y . In particular, I would be very cautious of solutions where x y = 0 x - y = 0 , since you are multiplying by 0.

If we want to solve x 2 + x + 1 = 0 x^2 + x + 1 = 0 , are we allowed to multiply by ( x x ) (x-x) and conclude that "It is true for all real numbers"?

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 8 months ago

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@Calvin Lin Thanks a lot . I now understood the point

Wasif Jawad Hussain - 5 years, 8 months ago

i dont know, how to type in fractions.

Dev Sharma - 5 years, 8 months ago

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@Dev Sharma I've edited the problem, so you can look at it and learn how to type.

Simply use \frac{A}{B} to obtain A B \frac{A}{B} .

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 8 months ago

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@Calvin Lin let me see

\frac{x}{x + y}

Dev Sharma - 5 years, 8 months ago

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@Dev Sharma Of course, place them in the Latex brackets.

If you click on "More -> Edit problem", you can see the Latex changes that I made.

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 8 months ago

Simply,

x 2 + x y + y 2 = ( x ω y ) ( x ω 2 y ) ( x ω y ) = 0 ( x ω 2 y ) = 0 x ω y ω 2 y y ω 2 x ω x Taking any one of the value, x x + y = x ( 1 + ω 2 ) x = ω 2 Similarly, y x + y = y ( 1 + ω ) y = ω x^2 + xy + y^2=(x-\omega y)(x-\omega^2y)\\ \begin{array}{l||c|r|}\Rightarrow&(x-\omega y)=0&(x-\omega^2y)=0\\\hline x&\omega y&\omega^2y\\y&\omega^2x&\omega x\end{array}\\ \begin{aligned}\text{Taking any one of the value, } \dfrac{x}{x+y} &= \dfrac{x}{(1+\omega^2)x}= -\omega^2\\ \text{Similarly, }\dfrac{y}{x+y} &= \dfrac{y}{(1+\omega)y}= -\omega\end{aligned} ( x x + y ) 2001 + ( y x + y ) 2001 = [ ω 2001 + ( ω 2 ) 2001 ] = 2 \begin{aligned}\Rightarrow \left( \frac{x}{ x+y } \right)^{2001} + \left( \frac{y}{x+y}\right) ^ { 2001}&= -\left[\omega^{2001} + \left(\omega^2\right)^{2001}\right] \\&=-2\end{aligned}

( x x + y ) 2001 + ( y x + y ) 2001 = 2 \Large\boxed{\left( \frac{x}{ x+y } \right)^{2001} + \left( \frac{y}{x+y}\right) ^ { 2001} = -2}

Moderator note:

Generally, there are better ways then breaking it down into all of it's individual cases and working on them separately. Think about how the cases can be combined together.

nice solution...

Dev Sharma - 5 years, 8 months ago

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Thank You!

Kishore S. Shenoy - 5 years, 8 months ago
Pulkit Gupta
Sep 27, 2015

The equation can be written as x/y + y/x = -1 Put x/y = t, then t + 1/t = -1 OR t + 1/t +1 = 0. The roots of the given equation are w, w^2 i.e. x / y = w or w^2. Clearly x= yw or yw^2.

Substitute the obtained value in the equation and simplify to obtain the answer.

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