Rod rotating with a ring

A rod of length L L hinged at one end O O is rotating in a horizontal plane at a uniform angular speed ω \omega . A ring is at a distance of L 2 \frac{L}{2} from O . O.

If the ring is released from rest relative to the rod, then let its speed when it comes to the free end be k ω L . k \omega L.

Assuming the rod to be frictionless, determine k 2 . k^2.


The answer is 1.75.

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2 solutions

Md Zuhair
Jan 27, 2018

Lets clear out @rajdeep brahma 's solution to you.

For any infinitesimally small element d x dx at a distance x from the Axis of rotation, mass of the element will be d m = m L d x dm= \dfrac{m}{L} dx

So force acting on it is simply the centrepetal force, which is d F c p = d m ω 2 x dF_{cp}= dm \omega^2 x

a c p = ω 2 x \implies a_{cp}=\omega^{2}x

v d v d x = ω 2 x \implies v\dfrac{dv}{dx} = \omega^2 x

v d v = ω 2 x d x \implies v dv = \omega^2 x dx

Integrating with limits 0 v 0 \rightarrow v and L 2 L \dfrac{L}{2} \rightarrow L

0 v v d v = 0 L ω 2 x d x \displaystyle{\int_{0}^{v} vdv = \int_{0}^{L} \omega^2 x dx}

v 2 2 = ω 2 3 L 2 4 2 \implies \dfrac{v^2}{2} = \dfrac{\omega^2 \dfrac{3L^2}{4}}{2}

v 2 = ω 2 3 L 2 4 \implies v^{2} = \omega^2 \dfrac{3L^2}{4}

v n = ω L 3 2 \implies v_{n}= \omega \dfrac{L\sqrt{3}}{2}

Now this was the normal velocity.

But the tangential velocity will be ω L \omega L

v 2 = v t 2 + v n 2 \implies v^{2}=v_{t}^2 + v_{n}^2

v 2 = ( 3 4 + 1 ) ω 2 L 2 \implies v^2 = (\dfrac{3}{4} + 1) \omega^2 L^2

v 2 = 7 4 ω 2 L 2 \implies v^2 = \dfrac{7}{4} \omega^2 L^2

k = 7 4 \implies k =\dfrac{7}{4}

k = 1.75 \implies \boxed{k=1.75}

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rajdeep brahma - 3 years, 4 months ago

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Dipu didi try kore ni?

Md Zuhair - 3 years, 4 months ago

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Mone hoy na ....topper meye😂😂😂😂.

rajdeep brahma - 3 years, 4 months ago

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@Rajdeep Brahma O try korle ar oi onko ta bachte pare na.. Solve hotei hoy

Md Zuhair - 3 years, 4 months ago

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@Md Zuhair 😂😂....#problem killer#.

rajdeep brahma - 3 years, 4 months ago

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@Rajdeep Brahma Xd :P Problem murder.. LOL... @Dipanwita Guhathakurta ... See this

Md Zuhair - 3 years, 4 months ago

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@Md Zuhair Ebar o amader murder korbe re bhai 😂😂.

rajdeep brahma - 3 years, 4 months ago

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@Rajdeep Brahma Ha.. se toh thik... Amar na.. tomar. Ami toh or bhai :P .. .Bhai der keo kore na. Bodnhu der kore :P

Md Zuhair - 3 years, 4 months ago

@Md Zuhair How do you explain the application of the centripetal force , if the rod is frictionless?

Also , centripetal force is acting inwards , then how do you explain the gain in velocity till it comes down?

Ankit Kumar Jain - 3 years, 3 months ago

Also , the rod should be horizontally placed if I am not wrong because then mg will cause a further increase in speed and the motion becomes complex..if yes , then please edit the problem statement to reflect this.

Ankit Kumar Jain - 3 years, 3 months ago
Rajdeep Brahma
Jan 25, 2018

In order to find velocity of the rod at the end,integrate m (w^2) x with x ranging from L 2 \frac{L}{2} to L.Let radial velocity be v.So u get 3 8 \frac{3}{8} m (w^2) (L^2)= 1 2 \frac{1}{2} m (v^2) and tangential velocity is w l.So the net velocity is root( 7 4 \frac{7}{4} )w*L (radial and tangential velocity sum).Hence k^2= 7 4 \frac{7}{4} =1.75.

No comments about the question. But to be honest, you are a CS student. You should write good Latex :P. Never mind

Omega can be written like ω \omega that is \ ( \ omega \ ) [This thing without space gives us the omega] , same with μ , α , β , Γ , γ , Δ , δ . . . \mu,\alpha,\beta,\Gamma,\gamma,\Delta,\delta...

Md Zuhair - 3 years, 4 months ago

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I have no idea of latex...honest confession and we are not taught latex in cs...but I think I will try to learn it once my exams are over..it is helpful.

rajdeep brahma - 3 years, 4 months ago

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Yeah it quite helpful. And i know that we are not taught latex by Joyrup :P HAHAHAH!

Md Zuhair - 3 years, 4 months ago

I did the same thing. Some where I did a calculation mistake. It’s ok

Srikanth Tupurani - 3 years, 1 month ago

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