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Geometry Level 3

If B A C = D B C \angle BAC = \angle DBC , find A D + A B AD + AB


The answer is 12.

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Jason Chrysoprase
Jul 29, 2016

Look at A B C \triangle ABC and B D C \triangle BDC . We know that B A C = D B C \angle BAC = \angle DBC , look closely and you will see that B C A = B C D \angle BCA = \angle BCD . This conclude that A B C = B D C \angle ABC = \angle BDC . So A B C \triangle ABC and B D C \triangle BDC are similar.

From the figure, we can see that 4 2 = A D + 2 4 \dfrac{4}{2} = \dfrac{AD + 2 }{4} and A B 4 = 3 2 \dfrac{AB}{4} = \dfrac{3}{2}

Solving the equations lead us to the answer where A D = 6 AD = 6 and A B = 6 AB = 6

A D + A B = 6 + 6 = 12 AD + AB = 6 + 6 = \color{#D61F06}{\boxed{12}}

How B C A = B D C \angle BCA=\angle BDC ?

A Former Brilliant Member - 4 years, 10 months ago

if we solve this question by applying sine law ad cosine law , then we will get two values of AD . both of them satisfy the triangle inequality... then why only 6 is chosen as the correct answer.. please help...!!!

Deepansh Jindal - 4 years, 10 months ago

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Really ? Show me ! I beleive this might be an error. There is no way one of the triangle have two or more length if the angle are the same ( what i have metioned at the problem )

Jason Chrysoprase - 4 years, 10 months ago

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i cant type here. i am telling the procedure that i followed 1 apply sine law in both the triangle i.e DBC and DAB angles ( DBC and DAB) and for angles (CDB and ADB). BY this you will get AB equal to 6. then obtain cos(DBC) from triangle DBC and you its value in triangle DAB . you will get AD =4.5 and 6

Deepansh Jindal - 4 years, 10 months ago

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@Deepansh Jindal I'm haven't learnt many from cosine law, so i dunno

Jason Chrysoprase - 4 years, 10 months ago

@Abhay Kumar Okay

A B C \triangle ABC and B D C \triangle BDC have two same angle B A C = D B C , B C A = B C D \angle BAC = \angle DBC, \angle BCA = \angle BCD , so A B C \angle ABC and B D C \angle BDC are the same angle

Jason Chrysoprase - 4 years, 10 months ago

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Typo: The second similar angle is B C A = B C D \angle BCA = \angle BCD

Hung Woei Neoh - 4 years, 10 months ago

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Thx, i have edited it

Jason Chrysoprase - 4 years, 10 months ago

Fidel, are you from Indonesia ?

Jason Chrysoprase - 4 years, 10 months ago

@Jason Chrysoprase sir, did you really come from Indonesia?

Fidel Simanjuntak - 4 years, 10 months ago

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yes i am, i'm 100% Indonesia, and no need to call me sir ( i'm 14 ). I'm just using my facebook account

Jason Chrysoprase - 4 years, 10 months ago

@Jason Chrysoprase yes, sir. I am glad to meet an Indonesian here.

Fidel Simanjuntak - 4 years, 10 months ago

@Jason Chrysoprase oh, sorry jason. Do you live in Jakarta?

Fidel Simanjuntak - 4 years, 10 months ago

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Yes, i do live in Jakarta, West Jakarta

Jason Chrysoprase - 4 years, 10 months ago

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What school ? I'm currently in SMPK Kasih Kemuliaan. Where do you live, maybe we can get into same school when we reach SMA 😅

Jason Chrysoprase - 4 years, 10 months ago

@Jason Chrysoprase i live in East Jakarta, and i am currently in SMP Advent Menteng. And i want to go to SMAN 68 if i can...

Fidel Simanjuntak - 4 years, 10 months ago

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Ohhh, well, we got different school. Anyway, i'm grade 9

Jason Chrysoprase - 4 years, 10 months ago

@Jason Chrysoprase yeah, i am in grade 9 too...

Fidel Simanjuntak - 4 years, 10 months ago

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Fidel, can you help me ? My teacher told me and my friend to find an interesting geometry problem about cone ( kerucut ), ball ( bola ), and tube ( tabung ). I was really happy, think i can share my problem with my friend. Then here comes the bad news :(. My teacher said that the problem can't be harder than UN ( Ujian Nasional ). So can you help me find 10 ( 3 tube, 3 ball, 3 cone, 1 more is between cone, ball, and tube ( pick wisely )) interesting problem please ? The more interesting the problem was, the more score i'll get

Also, please included the link to the website you found or the photo that you have taken and also what year of UN is it

Jason Chrysoprase - 4 years, 10 months ago

@Jason Chrysoprase okay.. When will you submit that task?

Fidel Simanjuntak - 4 years, 10 months ago

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Next month

Jason Chrysoprase - 4 years, 10 months ago

@Jason Chrysoprase i will help you..

Fidel Simanjuntak - 4 years, 10 months ago

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The problem is, you know. There is no such thing that is interesting problem in UN. Most of them are for level 1 people. What my teacher need is like level 3 or 4

Jason Chrysoprase - 4 years, 10 months ago

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Yeah,, i knew it..

Fidel Simanjuntak - 4 years, 10 months ago

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@Fidel Simanjuntak Have you find any ? i don't find a single one

Jason Chrysoprase - 4 years, 10 months ago

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@Jason Chrysoprase @Jason Chrysoprase wait.. is it okay, if one of the problem is mine??

Fidel Simanjuntak - 4 years, 10 months ago

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@Fidel Simanjuntak You mean you make it yourself ? No, must be UN

Jason Chrysoprase - 4 years, 10 months ago

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@Jason Chrysoprase Okay.. I am still searching

Fidel Simanjuntak - 4 years, 10 months ago

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@Fidel Simanjuntak okay, i think there's no need to be hard, just something tricky like balls into a cylinder and find the height

Jason Chrysoprase - 4 years, 10 months ago

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@Jason Chrysoprase Do you know MGMP? I found a question about ball in a cylinder. I can share this problem in my account. You can just see it.

Fidel Simanjuntak - 4 years, 9 months ago

@Jason Chrysoprase What is the English for "luas selimut tabung"?

Fidel Simanjuntak - 4 years, 9 months ago

@Jason Chrysoprase I'm sorry, but i didn't find any challenging problem.. I'll try it again..

Fidel Simanjuntak - 4 years, 9 months ago
Ku John
Aug 12, 2016

similarity test and then (3/2) 3+((4/2) 3-2)=11.5 round up 12

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