The arrangement shown in the figure consists of two identical uniform solid cylinders, each of mass
m
, on which two light threads are wound symmetrically.
The tension of each thread in the process of the motion can be expressed as α m g , where g is the gravitational acceleration constant.
What is α ?
Assume that the friction in the axle of the upper cylinder is assumed to be absent.
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@Chew-Seong Cheong Thanks for sharing. By the way, try my latest problem.
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I have to relearn my uni stuff.
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@Chew-Seong Cheong I didn't understand the above sentence .
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@Talulah Riley – I study electrical engineering in university in 1978/82. I learnt Mechanics then and now I have forgotten. So I have to learn it again.
Your latest problem should have an answer of v 0 ≤ α R g and not ≥ . The higher the velocity the easier it will bounce not the other way. Please change it.
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@Chew-Seong Cheong – @Chew-Seong Cheong Yeah sorry, it is corrected now. Thanks
@Chew-Seong Cheong
whenever I upload a image, the image comes in the middle of the page.
How you made it to right side.? Thanks in advance.
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Change the default "center" at the end to "right". I have also added "|height=250" to size the figure. We can also use "|width". Try them.
Solving this problem using Lagrangian mechanics. Consider the initial separation between the cylinders' COM to be s . The system is set into motion, assume that the first cylinder rotates by an angle θ 1 and the second cylinder rotates by an angle of θ 2 . Therefore, as the string unwinds due to the system's motion, the string increases in length by R θ 1 + R θ 2 as the lower cylinder falls due to its weight. Note that s is treated as a constant.
Consider the axle of the first cylinder to be the origin. Then at any general time t , the y coordinate of the COM of the lower cylinder is:
y = − ( s + R θ 1 + R θ 2 )
The kinetic energy of the system is the sum of rotational kinetic energies of the two cylinders and the translational kinetic energy of the lower cylinder. This expression is:
T = 2 1 ( 2 m R 2 ) θ ˙ 1 2 + 2 1 ( 2 m R 2 ) θ ˙ 2 2 + 2 m y ˙ 2 ⟹ T = 4 3 m R 2 θ ˙ 1 2 + 4 3 m R 2 θ ˙ 2 2 + m R 2 θ ˙ 1 θ ˙ 2
The potential energy of the system is:
V = − m g y
Applying Lagrange's equations by treating θ 1 and θ 2 as generalised coordinates, gives the following equations of motion. I am leaving out this computation. The equations are:
1 . 5 θ ¨ 1 + θ ¨ 2 = R g θ ¨ 1 + 1 . 5 θ ¨ 2 = R g
Solving for the lower cylinder's angular acceleration about it's COM gives:
θ ¨ 2 = 5 R 2 g
Now, finally, one can compute the net torque experienced by the lower cylinder about the COG as follows. Let the tension in each string is T . Then:
2 T R = 2 m R 2 θ ¨ 2 ⟹ T = 0 . 1 m g
@Karan Chatrath
in the new problem, can't you give simply the value of
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By the way what is
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In the wikipedia page I shared, skip to the section 'Definitions'. The function is defined there.
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@Karan Chatrath
Your function is
∞
at 0 and 0 at all other value?
Ye kaisa function hai?
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@Talulah Riley – Yes, that is the function. It is also called the impulse function. There is more than one way of solving this problem. If I would have given a standard source voltage function, this problem wouldn't be as interesting. There are a lot of conceptual insights to be found while solving this, according to me.
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@Karan Chatrath – @Karan Chatrath to time jaise hi 0.000001 second hoga voltage to zero ho jaayega. Phir kya karoge??
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@Talulah Riley – Yeh ab aap socho.
Also, search beyond that Wikipedia page that I shared. Working with this function is easier than you think. I am sure you will find atleast one very interesting property that you can easily use.
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@Karan Chatrath
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@Karan Chatrath
What are doing currently. Like I am in class 12 , what you are doing?
You will not loose any personality information . Don't worry.
@Karan Chatrath Mujhe aap bas v ( t ) bata do, please. Baaki kaam phir mera
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Let the tension of each thread be T and the moment of inertia of the cylinder be I and its radius be r . Then I = 2 m r 2 and the torque of the top cylinder is given by:
τ 2 T r ⟹ α 1 = I α 1 = 2 m r 2 α 1 = m r 4 T where α 1 is the angular acceleration of the top cylinder.
Similarly, for the bottom cylinder, 2 T r = 2 m r 2 α 2 ⟹ α 2 = α 1 . Now consider the translation motion of the bottom cylinder which is given by the downward force:
F z m g − 2 T m g − 2 T ⟹ T = m a = m a = m a = m ( α 1 r + α 2 r ) = 2 m α 1 r = 8 T = 1 0 m g where a is the resultant acceleration. As there is no slipping of the threads on the cylinders.
Therefore α = 0 . 1 .