Secant through the Focus

Calculus Level 3

Given the following:

  • ( p , f ( p ) ) (p, f(p)) and ( q , f ( q ) ) (q, f(q)) are points on the parabola f ( x ) = ( x h ) 2 4 a + k f(x)= \dfrac{(x-h)^2}{4a} +k .
  • ( p , f ( p ) ) (p, f(p)) , ( q , f ( q ) ) (q, f(q)) and ( h , k + a ) (h, k +a) are collinear.

What is f ( p ) × f ( q ) f'(p) \times f'(q) ?


The answer is -1.

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2 solutions

Chew-Seong Cheong
Oct 29, 2017

Given that f ( x ) = ( x h ) 2 4 a + k f(x) = \dfrac {(x-h)^2}{4a} + k , f ( x ) = x h 2 a \implies f'(x) = \dfrac {x-h}{2a} , f ( p ) f ( q ) = ( p h ) ( q = h ) 4 a 2 \implies f'(p)f'(q) = \dfrac {(p-h)(q=h)}{4a^2} .

Since ( p , f ( p ) ) (p, f(p)) , ( q , f ( q ) ) (q, f(q)) and ( h , k + a ) (h, k +a) are collinear, we have:

f ( p ) ( k + a ) p h = f ( q ) ( k + a ) q h ( p h ) 2 4 a + k ( k + a ) p h = ( q h ) 2 4 a + k ( k + a ) q h ( p h ) 2 4 a 2 p h = ( q h ) 2 4 a 2 q h ( p h ) 2 ( q h ) 4 a 2 ( q h ) = ( q h ) 2 ( p h ) 4 a 2 ( p h ) ( p h ) 2 ( q h ) ( q h ) 2 ( p h ) = 4 a 2 ( q h ) 4 a 2 ( p h ) ( p h ) ( q h ) ( p q ) = 4 a 2 ( q p ) ( p h ) ( q h ) 4 a 2 = q p p q f ( p ) f ( q ) = 1 \begin{aligned} \frac {f(p)-(k+a)}{p-h} & = \frac {f(q)-(k+a)}{q-h} \\ \frac {\frac {(p-h)^2}{4a}+k-(k+a)}{p-h} & = \frac {\frac {(q-h)^2}{4a}+k-(k+a)}{q-h} \\ \frac {(p-h)^2-4a^2}{p-h} & = \frac {(q-h)^2-4a^2}{q-h} \\ (p-h)^2(q-h)-4a^2(q-h) & = (q-h)^2(p-h)-4a^2(p-h) \\ (p-h)^2(q-h)-(q-h)^2(p-h) & = 4a^2(q-h) -4a^2(p-h) \\ (p-h)(q-h)(p-q) & = 4a^2(q-p) \\ \frac {(p-h)(q-h)}{4a^2} & = \frac {q-p}{p-q} \\ f'(p)f'(q) & = \boxed{-1} \end{aligned}

Nice solution! It's nice that you only based on the slope. Is it obvious what h, k, and a are?

Emmanuel David - 3 years, 7 months ago

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I don't think it is obvious what if both ( p , f ( p ) ) (p, f(p)) and ( q , f ( q ) ) (q,f(q)) are on the same half of the parabola instead of in opposite halves.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 3 years, 7 months ago

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They will never be on the same half, because they are opposite ends of the secant passing through the focus.

Emmanuel David - 3 years, 7 months ago

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@Emmanuel David

I have plotted the parabola with a = 1 4 , h = k = 1 a=\frac 14, h = k = 1 . p p can be 2 and q q can be 4. It has nothing to do with secant. There are just two points on the parabola.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 3 years, 7 months ago

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@Chew-Seong Cheong I don't know how you get you're plotting. But when h=1, k=1, a=0.25 and p=2, then q=0.75. Following the given.

I cannot add pictures in my comment. I cannot show you my plotting.

Emmanuel David - 3 years, 7 months ago

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@Emmanuel David You are right. I forgot about fixing ( h , k + a ) (h, k+a) on the graph.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 3 years, 7 months ago

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@Chew-Seong Cheong It's alright Glad that we've come to a common point hahahahahaha pun intended. XD

Emmanuel David - 3 years, 7 months ago

@Chew-Seong Cheong Here is the graph where h=1, k=1, a=0.25 and p=2 https://www.desmos.com/calculator/ovljeektni

Emmanuel David - 3 years, 7 months ago

As p approaches infinity, f(q) will only approach k.

Emmanuel David - 3 years, 7 months ago
Emmanuel David
Oct 29, 2017

(h, k+a) is the focus. (p, f(p) and (q, f(q) are the endpoints of the secant going through the focus. And the tangent lines at the endpoints of a secant going through the focus are perpendicular and intersect on the directrix (This is true for all parabolas). Perpendicular slopes are negative reciprocal of each other. So their product is -1.

Here's an interactive graph that I prepared:

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/asfosixi23

Emmanuel David - 3 years, 7 months ago

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