Similar sums (corrected)

Algebra Level 4

S 1 = 1 11 + 111 1111 + 11111 111111 + + 111...1 ( 2 n 1 ) × 1 s 1111...1 2 n × 1 s S 2 = 1 11 + 1 1111 + 1 111111 + + 1 1111...1 2 n × 1 s \begin{aligned} S_1 & = \frac{1}{11}+\frac{111}{1111}+\frac{11111}{111111}+\cdots+ \frac {\overbrace {111...1}^{(2n-1)\times 1's}}{\underbrace{1111...1}_{2n \times 1's}} \\ S_2 & = \frac{1}{11}+\frac{1}{1111}+\frac{1}{111111}+\cdots+ \frac {1}{\underbrace{1111...1}_{2n \times 1's}} \end{aligned}

For S 1 S_1 and S 2 S_2 as defined above, find the value of 2 n + 9 ( S 2 S 1 ) S 2 + S 1 \dfrac {2n+9(S_{2}-S_{1})}{S_{2}+S_{1}} for n = 2017 n=2017 .


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The answer is 11.

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2 solutions

Kushal Bose
Jan 16, 2017

From the given equation it can be clearly seen that 10 s 1 + s 2 = n 10 s_1 + s_2=n .Now I will only use this equation to find the required expression.

10 s 1 + s 2 = n = > 9 s 1 + s 1 + s 2 = n = > 9 s 1 + s 2 + s 1 = n 2 s 1 = > s 2 s 1 = n 11 s 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E q n ( 1 ) 10 s_1+ s_2=n \\ =>9 s_1 +s_1+s_2=n \\ =>9s_1+s_2+s_1 =n-2 s_1 \\=>s_2- s_1=n -11 s_1..............................Eqn(1)

10 s 1 + s 2 = n = s 1 + s 2 = n 9 s 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . E q n ( 2 ) 10 s_1 +s_2=n \\ =s_1+s_2=n-9 s_1...........................................................Eqn(2)

Come to the given expression 2 n + 9 ( s 2 s 1 ) s 2 + s 1 = 2 n + 9 ( n 11 s 1 ) n 9 s 1 = 11 n 99 s ! n 9 s 1 = 11 ( n 9 s 1 ) n 9 s 1 = 11 \dfrac{2n+9(s_2-s_1)}{s_2+s_1} \\ =\dfrac{2n+9(n-11 s_1)}{n-9 s_1} \\ =\dfrac{11n-99 s_!}{n-9 s_1} \\=\dfrac{11(n-9 s_1)}{n-9 s_1}=11

Okay, your solution is a bit neater than mine. An upvote for you.

Michael Mendrin - 4 years, 4 months ago
Michael Mendrin
Jan 16, 2017

Let’s assume that for a particular n n

2 n + 9 ( S 2 S 1 ) S 2 + S 1 = 11 \dfrac { 2n+9\left( { S }_{ 2 }-{ S }_{ 1 } \right) }{ { S }_{ 2 }+{ S }_{ 1 } } =11

so that

S 2 = n 10 S 1 { S }_{ 2 }=n-10{ S }_{ 1 }

We wish to find the value for the same expression for n + 1 n+1 , which is

2 ( n + 1 ) + 9 ( S 2 + t 2 S 1 t 1 ) S 2 + t 2 + S 1 + t 2 \dfrac { 2\left( n+1 \right) +9\left( { S }_{ 2 }+{ t }_{ 2 }-{ S }_{ 1 }-{ t }_{ 1 } \right) }{ { S }_{ 2 }+{ t }_{ 2 }+{ S }_{ 1 }+{ t }_{ 2 } }

Where t 1 t_1 and t 2 t_2 are the next terms in the series

t 1 = ( 9 10 2 ( n + 1 ) 1 ) ( 10 2 ( n + 1 ) 1 1 9 ) { t }_{ 1 }=\left( \dfrac { 9 }{ { 10 }^{ 2\left( n+1 \right) }-1 } \right) \left( \dfrac { { { 10 }^{ 2\left( n+1 \right) -1 }-1 } }{ 9 } \right)

t 2 = ( 9 10 2 ( n + 1 ) 1 ) { t }_{ 2 }=\left( \dfrac { 9 }{ { 10 }^{ 2\left( n+1 \right) }-1 } \right)

This expression reduces to 11 11 , with S 1 S_1 and n n both dropping out

Thus, since in the case of n = 1 n=1 the first expression has the value of 11 11 , by induction it’s true for any value of n n

wow!thats nice

but how did u consider the expression to be 11 (what was the intuition)?

Rohith M.Athreya - 4 years, 4 months ago

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Work it out for n=1?

The way the problem is stated, it looks suspicious that it's asking for the value when there could be different values for n. That suggests n doesn't matter.

Michael Mendrin - 4 years, 4 months ago

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oh yes,of course!

i made it a little less obvious by asking for a specific n n now :P

Rohith M.Athreya - 4 years, 4 months ago

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@Rohith M.Athreya If you had done that at the beginning, I would be still sitting here scratching my head. However, Kushal Bose had the right insight.

Michael Mendrin - 4 years, 4 months ago

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