CD perpendicular to AB

Geometry Level 4

Let A B C ABC be a triangle right angled at C C . We are given that C D A B CD \perp AB and F F is the center of the inscribed circles of the triangles A D C ADC and B D C BDC . Parallel lines through E E and F F with C D CD meet A C AC and B C BC at points E E' and F F' .

Denote n = C E C F n = \frac{CE'}{CF'} and that n n is a rational number of the form p q \frac pq for coprime positive integers p p and q q . Find the value of p 3 + q 3 p^3 + q^3 .


The answer is 2.

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3 solutions

Utkarsh Dwivedi
Jul 18, 2015

As the given conditions do not specify a particular right angled triangles or a particular group of right angled triangles , so the ratio must be the same for any type of tringle , so simply take a isoceles right angled triangled triangle and eidily find CE'=CF'.

Gaurav Jain
Jul 7, 2015

It is easy to show that CE' =CF' .

Can you tell me how

Prabhav Bansal - 5 years, 11 months ago

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Use simple properties of Similar Right angled triangles.

1.) Perpendicular from the vertex opposite to hypotenuse to opposite side (ie. CD) of such triangle divides it into 2 triangles which are similar. Here , A D B C D B \triangle ADB\quad \cong \quad \triangle CDB .

2.) Ratio of the inradii of these two triangles formed is equal to the ratio of any other pair of corresponding sides of the triangle. Here, R R = A C B C = cot C A B = tan E C D \frac { R }{ R' } =\frac { AC }{ BC } =\cot { \angle CAB } =\tan { \angle E'CD} . E C D = θ \angle E'CD = \theta . Here is what we wanted... R csc θ = R sec θ \boxed{R\csc { \theta =R'\sec { \theta } } } .

Gaurav Jain - 5 years, 11 months ago

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it is not correct ,,, i supposed that the triangle is isosecles to solve it so it's not correct ..and i can show you that

Ahmed Moh AbuBakr - 5 years, 11 months ago

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@Ahmed Moh AbuBakr You should better show it first

Gaurav Jain - 5 years, 11 months ago
Ahmed Moh AbuBakr
Jul 13, 2015

Tell me what the equality of the ratios has to do with the , equality of CE' andCF'. It is not connected directly to it.But your perception is only about it's specific case.Try getting the ratio of CE' and CF' for some arbitrary angles or comment on my solution.

Gaurav Jain - 5 years, 11 months ago

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to make r/r' =ad/db your problem is not correct at all @Gaurav Jain

Ahmed Moh AbuBakr - 5 years, 11 months ago

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It is AC/BC actually , if you are confused. Try this also .

Gaurav Jain - 5 years, 11 months ago

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@Gaurav Jain no it can't be man exept when 2x=45

Ahmed Moh AbuBakr - 5 years, 11 months ago

@Gaurav Jain the ratios are not equal so that make AD/DB not equal to R/R'

Ahmed Moh AbuBakr - 5 years, 11 months ago

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@Ahmed Moh AbuBakr Again !! the same doubt it is AC/BC =R/R'. NOT...... AD/DB. be sure.

Gaurav Jain - 5 years, 11 months ago

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@Gaurav Jain man ... concentrate ... AC/BC=(AD)^2/(DB)^2 by similarity

Ahmed Moh AbuBakr - 5 years, 11 months ago

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@Ahmed Moh AbuBakr Ha ha , you want me to concentrate on your mistake !! This is where you are getting confused. rotate triangle ADC clockwise keeping D intact to overlap AD with CD , then see. Don't take it wrongly and let it be a polite conversation. I appreciate you for trying to keep your point as well.

Gaurav Jain - 5 years, 11 months ago

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@Gaurav Jain AC/CB can't be equal to R/R'

Ahmed Moh AbuBakr - 5 years, 11 months ago

@Gaurav Jain sorry AC/BC=(AD^2)+(DB^2) it is the same man

Ahmed Moh AbuBakr - 5 years, 11 months ago

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