Sine Wave Sliding

A massive bead slides on a smooth wire in the shape of the curve y = s i n ( x ) y = sin(x) . The wire is fixed in place, and it extends infinitely in the + x +x and x -x directions. Gravity ( g ) (g) is 10 m/s 2 10 \, \text{m/s}^2 in the y -y direction.

At time t = 0 t = 0 , the x x position and velocity are:

x 0 = 0 x ˙ 0 = + 0.95 g \large{x_0 = 0 \\ \dot{x}_0 = + 0.95 \, \sqrt{g}}

What is the first time (after t = 0 t = 0 ) at which the x x position and velocity simultaneously match their initial values?

Note: Assume that everything is in standard SI units (ignore the apparent x ˙ 0 \dot{x}_0 dimensionality mismatch)


The answer is 4.5036.

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2 solutions

Steven Chase
Jul 20, 2018

See the energy-based solution from @Brian Moehring , in which he goes into detail about the constraints on the bead's motion, and about the computation of the final answer. The only thing I will add here is an alternate Lagrangian solution for the second-derivative of x x . The resulting expression can be numerically integrated to get the solution. This results in a list of ( t , x , y ) (t,x,y) coordinates which describes the particle trajectory.

Positions and velocities:
x = x y = s i n ( x ) x ˙ = x ˙ y ˙ = c o s ( x ) x ˙ \large{x = x \\ y = sin(x) \\ \dot{x} = \dot{x} \\ \dot{y} = cos(x) \, \dot{x}}

Kinetic Energy:

E = 1 2 m ( x ˙ 2 + y ˙ 2 ) = 1 2 m x ˙ 2 [ 1 + c o s 2 ( x ) ] \large{E = \frac{1}{2} m (\dot{x}^2 + \dot{y}^2) = \frac{1}{2} m \dot{x}^2 [1 + cos^2 (x)] }

Potential Energy:

U = m g y = m g s i n ( x ) \large{U = m g \, y = m g \, sin(x) }

Lagrangian:

L = E U = 1 2 m x ˙ 2 [ 1 + c o s 2 ( x ) ] m g s i n ( x ) \large{L = E - U = \frac{1}{2} m \dot{x}^2 [1 + cos^2 (x)] - m g \, sin(x) }

Equation of Motion:

d d t L x ˙ = L x \large{\frac{d}{dt} \frac{\partial{L}}{\partial{\dot{x}}} = \frac{\partial{L}}{\partial{x}}}

Inner left side:

L x ˙ = m x ˙ [ 1 + c o s 2 ( x ) ] \large{ \frac{\partial{L}}{\partial{\dot{x}}} = m \dot{x} [1 + cos^2 (x)] }

Left side:

d d t L x ˙ = m x ˙ [ 2 s i n ( x ) c o s ( x ) x ˙ ] + m x ¨ [ 1 + c o s 2 ( x ) ] \large{\frac{d}{dt} \frac{\partial{L}}{\partial{\dot{x}}} = m \dot{x} [-2 \, sin(x) \, cos(x) \, \dot{x}] + m \ddot{x} [1 + cos^2 (x)] }

Right side:

L x = 1 2 m x ˙ 2 [ 2 s i n ( x ) c o s ( x ) ] m g c o s ( x ) \large{\frac{\partial{L}}{\partial{x}} = \frac{1}{2} m \dot{x}^2 [-2 \, sin(x) \, cos(x)] - m g \, cos(x) }

Equating left and right sides:

2 x ˙ 2 s i n ( x ) c o s ( x ) + x ¨ [ 1 + c o s 2 ( x ) ] = x ˙ 2 s i n ( x ) c o s ( x ) g c o s ( x ) x ¨ [ 1 + c o s 2 ( x ) ] = x ˙ 2 s i n ( x ) c o s ( x ) g c o s ( x ) \large{ -2 \dot{x}^2 \, sin(x) \, cos(x) + \ddot{x} [1 + cos^2 (x)] = - \dot{x}^2 sin(x) \, cos(x) - g \, cos(x) \\ \ddot{x} [1 + cos^2 (x)] = \dot{x}^2 sin(x) \, cos(x) - g \, cos(x) }

Final result:

x ¨ = x ˙ 2 s i n ( x ) c o s ( x ) g c o s ( x ) 1 + c o s 2 ( x ) \large{\ddot{x} = \frac{\dot{x}^2 sin(x) \, cos(x) - g \, cos(x)}{1 + cos^2 (x) }}

@Steven Chase are you online ,I want to discuss something with you ?

Talulah Riley - 5 months, 1 week ago

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Yes, you can ask

Steven Chase - 5 months, 1 week ago

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I have think of more than 10 ideas to start my business within 6 months in college. One of my ideas is you know about Starbucks they offer coffee of such a high price ,.
Can I start a business like this specially for Tea ,what do you think ,?

Talulah Riley - 5 months, 1 week ago

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@Talulah Riley It's a good idea to make some money to get yourself through school. Most people do this by being an employee of a company and working part time (maybe 20 hours a week) while in school. Starting a business while in school could be very challenging, depending on the scale of the business. How much money are you hoping to bring in every year with this business?

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@Steven Chase @Steven Chase Feeling good after seeing someone showing interest in my ideas .
When I told these ideas to my mother and Father they use to say focus on your studies ..
I am taking admission in university not in school.
I am not hoping to bring any money ,just FOCUSING on solving problem of people.

Talulah Riley - 5 months, 1 week ago

@Steven Chase You know Ritesh Agarwal .
He became billionaire at just age of 24 ,he always says ,focus on the problem of people not on money.

Talulah Riley - 5 months, 1 week ago

@Steven Chase why are you so quiet?say something?

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I don't have much business advice to give, since I have never started one myself. But good luck

Steven Chase - 5 months, 1 week ago

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@Steven Chase It is never too late .I suggest you to start your bussiness as early as possible.

Talulah Riley - 5 months, 1 week ago

@Steven Chase The moment I got some good money from my business.
I will start a electric vehicles company .In future there will be good craze for electric vehicle in India to beat Tesla

Talulah Riley - 5 months, 1 week ago

@Steven Chase At first Vehicles use to run with Coal,after that Diesel/gas/Petrol after that Electricity after that what will come ???

Talulah Riley - 5 months, 1 week ago

Animal power (horses, oxen, etc.) came even before coal. I think electricity will be the final form of propulsion for cars.

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@Steven Chase Haha ,everyone knows that Animal power came first .
You are not a creator of universe.you are just a living organism in Earth.
So you can't say so confidentally that Electricity will be the final form. I am damn sure something will come more cheaper,more comfortable,more effecient than electric cars.
And Neeraj is the guy who will invent that .Bye :).

Talulah Riley - 5 months, 1 week ago

@Steven Chase Do you have a Tesla car ???

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@Steven Chase what is the company of your car ?

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@Steven Chase why you are so quiet again?say something?

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Brian Moehring
Jul 19, 2018

By the conservation of energy, x ˙ 2 + y ˙ 2 + 2 g y = x ˙ 0 2 + y ˙ 0 2 = x ˙ 0 2 + ( y ( x 0 ) ) 2 x ˙ 0 2 = 2 x ˙ 0 2 = 2 ( 0.9 5 2 g ) \dot{x}^2 + \dot{y}^2 + 2gy = \dot{x}_0^2 + \dot{y}_0^2 = \dot{x}_0^2 + (y'(x_0))^2\dot{x}_0^2 = 2\dot{x}_0^2 = 2(0.95^2 g) Here, we note that this gives y = 0.9 5 2 < 1 y=0.95^2 < 1 when the velocity is zero, so the bead won't escape from between the two peaks at x = 3 π 2 , π 2 x=-\frac{3\pi}{2},\frac{\pi}{2} .

Between these two peaks, x = sin 1 ( y ) x = \sin^{-1}(y) or x = π 2 sin 1 ( y ) x = -\frac{\pi}{2} - \sin^{-1}(y) , so we have x ˙ = ± 1 1 y 2 y ˙ \dot{x} = \pm \frac{1}{\sqrt{1-y^2}}\dot{y} , and the above equation becomes 1 1 y 2 y ˙ 2 + y ˙ 2 + 2 g y = 2 ( 0.9 5 2 g ) ( 2 y 2 ( 1 y 2 ) ( 0.9 5 2 y ) ) y ˙ = ± 2 g \frac{1}{1-y^2}\dot{y}^2 + \dot{y}^2 + 2gy = 2(0.95^2 g) \implies \left(\sqrt{\frac{2-y^2}{(1-y^2)(0.95^2-y)}}\right) \dot{y} = \pm \sqrt{2g}

Now, if the position and velocity first match their initial values at time t = T t = T , then T T will be the time period for the movement of the bead. By the symmetry in the graph about the low point at x = π 2 x=-\frac{\pi}{2} and the symmetry in the time axis, we conclude that it takes T 4 \frac{T}{4} for the bead to move from the low point at y = 1 y=-1 to its highest point at y = 0.9 5 2 y=0.95^2 . If we suppose that the bead is at y = 1 y=-1 at t = t l o w t=t_{low} , then we can integrate the equation we found: 1 0.9 5 2 2 y 2 ( 1 y 2 ) ( 0.9 5 2 y ) d y = t l o w t l o w + T 4 2 g d t = T 2 g 4 \int_{-1}^{0.95^2} \sqrt{\frac{2-y^2}{(1-y^2)(0.95^2-y)}} \, dy = \int_{t_{low}}^{t_{low} + \frac{T}{4}} \sqrt{2g} \,dt = \frac{T\sqrt{2g}}{4} and solving for T T gives T = 4 2 g 1 0.9 5 2 2 y 2 ( 1 y 2 ) ( 0.9 5 2 y ) d y 4.5035661875494 T = \frac{4}{\sqrt{2g}} \int_{-1}^{0.95^2} \sqrt{\frac{2-y^2}{(1-y^2)(0.95^2-y)}} \, dy \approx \boxed{4.5035661875494}

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