A slackline is stretched between two trees at a distance, d = 1 0 m , so that a tensioning force, F 0 = 5 0 0 0 N , is applied on the empty rope. A man then balances in the middle of the rope and exerts a weight force, F g = 7 5 0 N , onto the slackline. What is the vertical deflection, h , of the rope?
Details and Assumptions: The rope is made of an elastic material and obeys Hooke's law F = K l 0 l − l 0 , where F is the force along the rope, l 0 is the initial length, l is the stretched length of the rope, and K = 1 5 0 kN is the force constant.
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sir where do you get your great problems ? Are they all original ?
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To be honest, most of these problem are variations of familiar problems that I encountered during my degree course of physics. Nevertheless, there is a lot of creativity in these problems because I try to apply the physical principles to realistic situations so that they do not seem too abstract. Applying Hooke's law to slacklining was my idea as well, so it can be said that this problem is largely original.
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Do you have any references to any problems of the courses you have taken ?
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@André Hucek – My sources are mainly the lectures and exercises that I attended at the university. In part, I still have handwritten notes, but much I have already disposed. A specification of the references is therefore difficult, since a recall many things only from my own memory. A special exception is the problem of "energy distribution". This task did occur a similar form in the lecture "Thermodynamics and Statistical Mechanics" by Prof. Rehren in 2006. Maybe the exercise sheet still exists in the internet, but even I would not have access to it anymore.
Hello, could you please explain me better, why F=Fg/2sin(a)
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This equation results from the parallelogram of forces. The sum of all the vectors F 1 , F 2 and F g has to be zero, since the rope is in a stable position. The forces F 1 and F 2 are aligned along the rope and add up to the vector − F g . In component notation these vectors equals F i = ( ± F cos α , F sin α ) with the absolute value F = ∣ F i ∣ . Their sum results to F 1 + F 2 = ( 0 , 2 F sin α ) = ! − F g = ( 0 , F g ) Therefore, the force along the rope results F = F g / 2 sin ( α ) .
The draw confuses me because you put the force two times at the slackline
In the first section of your explanation you calculated for L(zero), which you said was the initial length - don't we already know the initial length of the rope: 10 metres? I thought that L was the length we were supposed to be calculating? how can the rope be shorter than 10m to begin with?
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The initial length l 0 is shorter then 10 meters, because the empty rope is already strechted, so that a tension force of 5000 newtons results. If the initial length was 10 meters, then the force would be zero.
hello please explain me better .
Why the original length (9.6 m) is less then length of stretched rope (10 m) ?
I have used similar method as Markus one, but I use desmos to approximate it.
Let's take a look at right half, after the man standing on the rope, it form a right triangle which 90 degree is at upper-left corner. we have horizontal length 5 , and let vertical length x , hypotenuse y .
First, we find the original length of the rope, I mean the right half ones, states as l 0 , You can easily find that as l 0 = 3 1 1 5 0 , I didn't use approximation to this fraction, to retain accuracy of the result.
At the moment the man stand, let the force act on rope slightly changes from F to F ′ , so
F ′ = K l 0 y − l 0
Compute all of the constant will get
F ′ = 3 1 0 0 0 y − 1 5 0 0 0 0
Then, it is necessary to know that the vertical component of F ′ will equal to half of the man's weight, so it obtain:
F ′ y x = 2 1 F g = 3 7 5
Rearrange all of the above and finally add on simple Pythagoras Equation,
y 2 = x 2 + 2 5 − − − − − − ( 1 ) ( 3 1 0 0 0 y − 1 5 0 0 0 0 ) x = 3 7 5 y − − − − − − − ( 2 )
Look at x coordinate, we get 0 . 3 4 9 m .
How did you get F'=31000y-150000
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Since K = 1 5 0 k N and as I shown above, l 0 can be found as 3 1 1 5 0 . Hope this will help. :)
First, let's determine the total unstretched length of the rope
F = K ( l / l 0 − 1 )
5 0 0 0 = 1 5 0 × 1 0 3 ( 1 0 / l 0 − 1 )
l 0 = 1 0 / ( 1 + 1 / 3 0 ) = 3 0 0 / 3 1
Now, after applying the weight of the man on the rope, balance of forces dictates that
F g = 2 T sin θ
i.e. 7 5 0 = 2 T sin θ
where θ is the angle that the rope makes with the horizontal.
In addition, T and the new length of the rope obey Hooke's law,
The stretched length of half rope is 5 / cos θ , and the unstretched half rope is 150/31, hence
T = 1 5 0 × 1 0 3 ( ( 1 5 0 / 3 1 ) ( 5 / cos θ ) − 1 )
Substituting this above in the first equation
7 5 0 = 2 × 1 5 0 × 1 0 3 ( ( 1 5 0 / 3 1 ) ( 5 / cos θ ) − 1 ) sin θ
Simplifying
1 5 × 1 5 0 cos θ = 6 × 1 0 3 ( 1 5 5 − 1 5 0 cos θ ) sin θ
simplifying further
3 cos θ = 4 0 ( 3 1 − 3 0 cos θ ) sin θ
solving the above equation numerically yields θ = 0 . 0 6 9 7 8 3 rad .
Now h = 5 tan θ = 0 . 3 4 9 4 8 2 m = 3 4 . 9 cm ≈ 3 5 cm
If we break the rope into 2 symmetrical triangles.... and assume that they are each supporting 1/2 of the human.
F=K * (l-lo) * (1/lo)
F = K* strain (% deformation)
F total = Ftension (Fo) + Fhuman (Fg)
Fo is constant @ 5000N - assume this is completely in x plane.
Fg applied to one side of rope = 1/2 Fg in y plane.
Ftotal = sqrt( (1/2*Fg)^2 + (Fo)^2 )
Ftotal = sqrt( 140625 + 25000000)
Ftotal = 5014.04278
Ftotal = K *strain
Ftotal/K = strain
5014.04278/150 = strain
0.033426952 = strain
strain = % deformatioon.
0.033426952*10m = 0.334269519m
Not exactly 35, and it makes a few assumptions, but gets pretty close.
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Initially the rope is streched to the lenght d due to the tensioning force F 0 , so that Hooke's law reads F 0 ⇒ l 0 = K l 0 d − l 0 = F 0 + K K d = 1 5 5 1 5 0 ⋅ 1 0 m = 3 1 3 0 0 m ≈ 9 . 6 8 m For the loaded slackline we can draw the following diagram:
With the man as additional load, the forces F 1 and F 2 along the rope must make up for weight force F g , so that F 1 + F 2 ⇒ ∣ F 1 ∣ = ∣ F 2 ∣ = − F g = F = 2 sin α F g with the deflection angle α . According to the diagram, the lenght of the rope results l ⇒ F = cos α d = K l 0 l − l 0 = 1 5 0 , 0 0 0 N ⋅ ( 3 0 cos α 3 1 − 1 ) = 2 sin α 7 5 0 N This equation can be solved graphically and results an angle α = 0 . 0 7 rad = 4 ∘ and a deflection h = 2 d tan α = 3 5 cm An approximate solution can be obtained if we use the linear approximations cos α ≈ 1 and sin α ≈ α for small angles. K F ⇒ α ⇒ h = ( 3 0 cos α 3 1 − 1 ) ≈ 3 0 1 = 4 0 0 sin α 1 ≈ 4 0 0 α 1 ≈ 4 0 3 rad = 0 . 0 7 5 rad = 4 . 3 ∘ = 2 d tan α ≈ 3 8 cm