Solve for trajectory again

We have placed a particle of mass m m at r = r 0 i ^ \overset { \rightarrow }{ r } ={ r }_{ 0 }\hat { i } .

At t = 0 t=0 we have given it a velocity of v = v 0 j ^ \overrightarrow { v } ={ v }_{ 0 }\hat { j } .In the whole co-ordinate plane the force is given by F = r N e w t o n \overrightarrow{F}=-\overrightarrow{r}Newton

The title says solve for trajectory but I am telling you that the trajectory of the particle is ellipse.If the eccentricity of the ellipse is given by e = a b e=\frac {\sqrt {a} }{ b } where a , b a,b are co-prime integers and a is square free then find a × b a\times b

Details and Assumptions

1) v 0 = 2 m / s , r 0 = 1 m e t r e , m = 1 K g { v }_{ 0 }=2 m/s,{ r }_{ 0 }=1 metre,m=1Kg

2)There are no other force acting on the particle except the force given.

3) Ignore gravity


The answer is 6.

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4 solutions

Aritra Jana
Oct 11, 2014

I will first prove that the trajectory will be of an ellipse:

1 1 Considering the motion along X:

since mass is 1 1 , the falue of F = d 2 x d x 2 F=\frac{d^{2}x}{dx^{2}}

note that d 2 x d x 2 = v d v d x \frac{d^{2}x}{dx^{2}}=v\frac{dv}{dx}

now: v d v d x = x v\frac{dv}{dx}=-x

thus, by simple integration, we get v 2 2 + x 2 2 = c 1 \frac{v^{2}}{2}+\frac{x^{2}}{2}=c_1

now, at t = 0 ; v = 0 ; x = 1 t=0;v=0;x=1 so, putting values and calculating, we get c 1 = 1 2 c_1=\frac{1}{2}

so, the equation can be re-written as:

v = 1 x 2 v=\sqrt{1-x^{2}}

and by re-arranging and putting integrals:

d x 1 x 2 = d t \int{\frac{dx}{\sqrt{1-x^{2}}}}=\int{dt}

A gen solution of this is x = s i n ( t + c 2 ) x=sin(t+c_2) (for proof of this look at the end)

Now, at t = 0 , x = 1 t=0,x=1 ..Giving c 2 = π 2 c_2=\frac{\pi}{2}

so, we get the gen equation for x = c o s t x=cost

2 2 Considering Y-axis

note that acceleration and displacement will have the same type of relation like X.

solve them the same way to get:

v 2 = 2 c 3 y 2 v^{2}=2c_3 -y^{2}

at t = 0 , v = 2 , y = 0 t=0,v=2,y=0

Solve and simplify to get:

d y 4 y 2 = d t \int{\frac{dy}{\sqrt{4-y^{2}}}}=\int{dt}

again, a general solution to this is

y = 2 s i n ( t + c 4 ) y=2sin(t+c_4)

again, at t = 0 , y = 0 t =0,y=0 giving c 4 = 0 c_4=0

Thus, gen equation for Y:

y = 2 s i n t y=2sint

3 3 The Ellipse Part:

the parametric equation of an ellipse is : ( a cos θ , b sin θ ) (a\cos\theta,b\sin\theta) where eccentricity = e = 1 a 2 b 2 =e=\sqrt{1-\frac{a^{2}}{b^{2}}}

in this case, a = 1 , b = 2 a=1,b=2

put values to get e = 3 2 e=\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}

Thus, our answer: 6 \boxed{6}


proof of d x a 2 x 2 = d t \int{\frac{dx}{\sqrt{a^{2}-x^{2}}}}=\int{dt} gives x = a s i n ( t + k ) x=asin(t+k) where k is the constant of integration

Let y = s i n 1 ( x a ) y=sin^{-1}(\frac{x}{a})

or, x a = s i n y \frac{x}{a}=siny

differentiating w.r.t x x and re-arranging, we get:

d y d x = 1 a c o s y = 1 a 2 a 2 s i n 2 y \frac{dy}{dx}=\frac{1}{acosy}=\frac{1}{\sqrt{a^{2}-a^{2}sin^{2}y}}

putting values of s i n y siny and simplifying, we get:

d y = d x a 2 x 2 dy=\frac{dx}{\sqrt{a^{2}-x^{2}}}

therefore, d x a 2 x 2 = d y = y = s i n 1 ( x a ) \int{\frac{dx}{\sqrt{a^{2}-x^{2}}}}=\int{dy}=y=sin^{-1}(\frac{x}{a})

the rest is followed

@Ronak Agarwal any flaw in my solution?

Aritra Jana - 6 years, 8 months ago

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Perfect solution.

Ronak Agarwal - 6 years, 8 months ago

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btw you post some reeeeeaaaalllyyy great problems man! :D

Aritra Jana - 6 years, 8 months ago

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@Aritra Jana Thanks for appreciating

Ronak Agarwal - 6 years, 8 months ago

Yeah Simple but Nice Question !

Karan Shekhawat - 6 years, 4 months ago

Perfect solution!!! Thanks for being patient and explaining everything!!:)

A Former Brilliant Member - 6 years, 4 months ago

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thanks.. well people need the explanation so that they can understand it thoroughly and thus it would help them to solve problems in future :D

Aritra Jana - 6 years, 4 months ago
Snehal Shekatkar
Jan 20, 2015

The resulting motion can be thought of as two separate simple harmonic motions one along each axis because of the given form for the force. First consider a motion along X-axis. The maximum amplitude along this axis is b = r 0 b = r_{0} because at that point the component of velocity along x-axis is zero. To calculate the amplitude of motion along Y-axis, let us use energy conservation. The kinetic energy for y = 0 y=0 is 1 2 m v 0 2 \frac{1}{2}mv_{0}^{2} . The potential energy when particle is at the extreme point on Y-axis (say y = a y=a ) is a 2 2 \frac{a^{2}}{2} . Hence we have, b 2 = m v 0 2 b^{2}=mv_{0}^{2} Thus, the eccentricity of the ellipse is given by: e = 1 a 2 b 2 = 1 r 0 2 m v 0 2 e = \sqrt{1-\frac{a^{2}}{b^{2}}}=\sqrt{1-\frac{r_{0}^{2}}{mv_{0}^{2}}} Substituting the given values, we get, e = 3 2 \boxed{e=\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}}

exactly! did the same but by using force equations!!

shuvam keshari - 5 years, 8 months ago

Really nice solution. But don't you have to first prove that the given force field is conservative before applying CoE?

Kp Govind - 6 years, 4 months ago
Krishna Karthik
Apr 22, 2020

Interestingly, this forms a sort of attracting field, with the the force field pulling the object towards the plane's centre.

This forms a symmetric ellipse, about the y and x-axes. Here's an image I made by simulating the trajectory:

Here is the simulation:

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import math

time = 0 #initial time              
deltaT = 10**-2 #timestep

r  = [1,0] #initial position vector
rDot = [0,2] #initial velocity vector   

Rx = [] #x values   
Ry = [] #y values

while time <=6.5: #simulating to 2.5 seconds
    Rx.append(r[0]) 
    Ry.append(r[1])

    rDotDot = [-1*r[0], -1*r[1]] #Force field calculation 

    rDot[0] = rDot[0] + rDotDot[0]*deltaT #numerically integrating to get x velocity
    rDot[1] = rDot[1] + rDotDot[1]*deltaT #numerically integrating to get y velocity

    r[0] = r[0] + rDot[0]*deltaT #numerically integrating xdot to get x position
    r[1] = r[1] + rDot[1]*deltaT #numerically integrating ydot to get y position

    time = time + deltaT #updating value of time


print("x values: ")

print("")

for i in Rx:
    print(i)

print("")

print("y values: ")

print("")

for j in Ry:
    print(j)

Aryan Goyat
Mar 15, 2016

first we know that d l / d t = r F dl/dt=r*F when force is along the r. net torque about that point is zero.

this implies angular momentum is conserved * m v r = c o n s t a n t mv*r=constant *

let the path followed be * \frac{x^(2)}{a^(2)}\+\frac{y^(2)}{b^(2)}\=1 *

so we look at 2 position

x=a(2(initial velocity),a(magnitude of position vector))

and x=0(v,b)

v b = 2 vb=2

now we find radius of curvature at x=0

we found it to be R= \(\frac{a^(2)}{b} )

* m v ( 2 ) R \frac{mv^(2)}{R} =b*

hence b = 2 b=2

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