Solving for x = ? x=?

Algebra Level 1

What is the value of x x in the following expression?

3 x + 4 x = 5 x 3^x+ 4^x= 5^x


The answer is 2.

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3 solutions

Let f : R R f: \R\to\R be the function defined by

f ( x ) = ( 3 5 ) x + ( 4 5 ) x f(x) = (\frac{3}{5})^x + (\frac{4}{5})^x .

To solve the equation 3 x + 4 x = 5 x 3^x +4^x = 5^x is equivalent to solving f ( x ) = 1 f(x) = 1 . It is clear that x = 2 x=2 is a solution; to show that it is unique, we note that f ( x ) f(x) is a decreasing function, since

f ( x ) = ln ( 3 5 ) ( 3 5 ) x + ln ( 4 5 ) ( 4 5 ) x < 0 f'(x) = \ln(\frac{3}{5})(\frac{3}{5})^x + \ln(\frac{4}{5}) (\frac{4}{5})^x < 0\, for all x R x\in\R .

Therefore, f ( x ) 1 f(x)\neq 1 if x 2 x\neq 2 . \square

Hana Wehbi
Dec 24, 2019

3 2 + 4 2 = 5 2 3^2+ 4^2= 5^2 is the only solution. We will show by induction that for x 3 x ≥ 3 we always have 3 x + 4 x 5 x 3^x+4^x \le 5^x

Let x = 3 3 3 + 4 3 5 3 x=3 \implies 3^3+ 4^3 \le 5^3 ,

suppose it is true for x = k , 3 k + 4 k 5 k , ( k > 0 ) x=k,\implies 3^k+ 4^k \le 5^k,( k > 0)

Now, we need to prove it is true for x = k + 1 , 3 k + 1 + 4 k + 1 3 k 3 + 4 k 4 5 k 5 = 5 k + 1 . x= k+1, \implies 3^{k+1}+4^{k+1} \le 3^k*3+ 4^k*4 \le 5^k *5 = 5^{k+1}.

Now, similarly for x 1 3 x + 4 x 5 x x \le 1 \rightarrow 3^x+ 4^x \ge 5^x \implies the only solution is when x = 2 x=2 , we get 3 2 + 4 2 = 5 2 3^2+4^2=5^2 .

What about the proof for 1 < x < 2 1<x<2 ? Also, it is told that 3 k + 4 k 5 k 3^k+4^k\leq {5^k} for k > 0 k>0 . What, if 0 < k < 2 0<k< 2 ?

A Former Brilliant Member - 1 year, 5 months ago

I did mention that x = 2 x=2 is the only solution so l proved that if x x is greater or equal to 3 3 , we don’t get equality, similarly if x 1 x\le 1 , we don’t get equality. We need to consider intervals that include equality because we are solving for x x . I hope this was helpful.

Hana Wehbi - 1 year, 5 months ago

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But there may be another value of x x in the interval ( 1 , 3 ) (1,3) for which the equality holds. How to prove that there is no other value in this interval?

A Former Brilliant Member - 1 year, 5 months ago

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Maybe we should approach it by contradiction, suppose that there is exists a value in the interval ( 1 , 3 (1,3 ), let’s take an example for x = 1.5 or x = 2.5 x=1.5 \text{ or } x=2.5 and we see for these values the equality doesn’t hold. These values can serve as counter examples, thus equality only hold for x = 2 x=2 .

Hana Wehbi - 1 year, 5 months ago

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@Hana Wehbi But this is not a general rigorous proof. It's a check for some specific values of x x .

A Former Brilliant Member - 1 year, 5 months ago

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@A Former Brilliant Member But isn’t if we found a counter example in the interval, justification has been reached.

Hana Wehbi - 1 year, 5 months ago

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@Hana Wehbi A finite number of counterexamlpes is not enough in this case. We have to prove the statement for all x x in that range. This may be worked out by analysing the nature of variation of the function f ( x ) = 3 x + 4 x 5 x f(x) =3^x+4^x-5^x as x x grows up. (It seems f ( x ) f(x) is monotone decreasing). Anyways, thank you for posting such a great problem and pointing out the falacy in my solution. :)

A Former Brilliant Member - 1 year, 5 months ago

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@A Former Brilliant Member You’re welcome but l didn’t criticize your solution that was Pi Han Goh.

Hana Wehbi - 1 year, 5 months ago

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@Hana Wehbi Oh, sorry. But come, let's think about the route to reach the final solution.

A Former Brilliant Member - 1 year, 5 months ago

Fermat's last theorem :)

You're incorrect. The question didn't mention that x x must be an integer.

Pi Han Goh - 1 year, 5 months ago

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