lo g y x + lo g x y = − 2 Find the value of x y .
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Simple and easy to understand! Bonus question: What is the range of real value of A such that lo g y x + lo g x y = A has real solutions for x , y ?
Let z = lo g y x
Use the quadratic formula on the equation z 2 − A z + 1 = 0 For real solution to this eq, range of real values A can take is R - (-2,2)
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The roots of the equation z 2 − A z + 1 = 0 , is given simply by the quadratic equation: 2 a − b ± b 2 − 4 a c , where -A=b, a=1, and c=1 Implying that A ≥ ± 2 ., such that the interval for the challenge master's note is [ − ∞ , − 2 ] ∪ [ 2 , ∞ ] . A simple check with A=0, gives z = ± i , so it is not in the range [-2,2].
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The range of Real A is: Real Values minus the set (-2, 2) i.e. R-(-2,2). I did mention the same answer above. I hope this clarifies
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@Yaşar Qamar – Sorry I was slightly confused by the notation, as I figured R corresponded to to range. For future reference, R , is the correct notation for real numbers to avoid any future confusion. Anyways cool problem.
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@Scott Ripperda – Thanks! :D
@Scott Ripperda – My bad, Thanks for pointing that out. Cheers.
there are xy amount.
I think the answer to the question in challenge master's note is R-(-2,2)
all real numbers?
Using the Properties of Logarithms , lo g y x + lo g x y = − 2 ⇒ lo g y lo g x + lo g x lo g y = − 2 ⇒ lo g x lo g y ( lo g x ) 2 + ( lo g y ) 2 = − 2 ⇒ ( lo g x ) 2 + ( lo g y ) 2 = − 2 lo g x lo g y ⇒ ( lo g x ) 2 + 2 lo g x lo g y + ( lo g y ) 2 = 0 ⇒ ( lo g x + lo g y ) 2 = 0 ⇒ lo g x + lo g y = 0 ⇒ lo g x = − lo g y ⇒ lo g x = lo g y 1 a > 0 , a = 1 : a x = a y ⇔ x = y ⇒ 1 0 lo g x = 1 0 lo g y 1 ⇒ x = y 1 ⇒ x y = 1 □
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The simplest solution is always the best solution.
Couldn't you just go from LaTeX: ⇒ lo g x + lo g y = 0 ⇒ lo g x = − lo g y ⇒ lo g x = lo g y 1 to log(xy) = 0 then xy = 10^0 or xy = 1?
I like to take it step by step and apply the log rules.
Great explination.
Another very clear and methodical solution .
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l o g y x + l o g x y = − 2 ⇒ l o g y x + l o g x y + l o g x x + l o g y y = 0 ⇒ l o g x x y + l o g y x y = 0 ⇒ l n x l n x y = − l n y l n x y ⇒ ( l n x + l n y ) l n x y = 0 Therefore x y = 1
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If we let y n = x and x p = y then we are told that p + n = − 2 . Multiplying these equations yields ( x y ) p + n = x y . Substituting yields ( x y ) − 2 = x y . The only value of x y for which this is satisfied is at x y = 1 .
Note: This solution is invalid if the problem was defined over complex numbers. Seeing as that is not the case, the solution holds.
In place of the dollar signs ($), what works here is \( and \). The first to open and the second to close.
Let l o g y x = a and l o g x y = b . This means that 1) y a = x and 2) x b = y . Substituting y a into the second equation yields y a b = y 1 , which shows that ab=1. Then, we define a= b 1 . Substituting a into the original a+b equation, we get b 1 + b = − 2 . Multiplying b on both sides, knowing b cannot equal zero, b 2 + 2 b + 1 = 0 which gives b = − 1 . Since that is true, x − 1 = y , or x 1 = y . This shows that x y = 1
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Let z : = lo g y x , then lo g x y = z 1 and so z + z 1 = − 2 , giving us ( z + 1 ) 2 = 0 , hence z = − 1 . Therefore lo g y x = − 1 , meaning that y − 1 = x . So we get x y = y − 1 y = 1 .