Some more Irodov revision for old Dougo

This is one of my favourite problems from Irodov. It's really quite beautiful conceptually.

Here's the problem:

What is the minimum acceleration with which bar A (Fig. 1.22) should be shifted horizontally to keep bodies 1 and 2 stationary relative to the bar?

The masses of the bodies are equal, and the coefficient of friction between the bar and the bodies is equal to μ \mu . The masses of the pulley and the threads are negligible, the friction in the pulley is absent.

The desired acceleration of the bar for the blocks to be stationary relative to the bar is of the following form:

a = g ( n μ ) ( p + μ ) \displaystyle a = \frac{g(n-\mu)}{(p + \mu)}

Type your answer as n + p n+p , where n , p n,p are positive integers.


The answer is 2.

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1 solution

Krishna Karthik
Sep 22, 2020

Firstly, to understand what the acceleration of the bodies have to be if they are to be at rest in the bar's accelerated frame. Basically, the principle of this problem is that the bars have to be at an equal acceleration to appear stationary in the bar's reference frame.

If body 1 is not accelerating enough to the right direction, then it will "lag" behind; ie. it won't appear at rest. If it is accelerating more than the acceleration of the bar, then it will go too far and won't appear at rest. However, at just the right acceleration, block 1 will "move with the bar".

Writing the equation of motion for body 1:

m a = T μ m g \displaystyle ma = T - \mu mg

Where a a is the desired acceleration of block 1.

For block 2, note that the normal force is increased because the bar is sort of creating an artificial gravity by accelerating to the right at acceleration a a .

Hence the normal force will be present , and will be:

N 2 = m a N_2 = ma

Equation of motion:

0 = m g T μ N 2 \displaystyle 0 = mg - T - \mu N_2

Solving will yield a = g ( 1 μ ) ( 1 + μ ) \displaystyle a = \frac{g(1-\mu)}{(1+\mu)}

Which book do you practice for higher physics?

SRIJAN Singh - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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I use brilliant.org, pdfs from online, Walter Lewin's lectures, recently started on Irodov, and Serway and Jewett physics for engineers and scientists.

Krishna Karthik - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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You're brilliant,please help me to manage time because I have lot to do?

SRIJAN Singh - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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@Srijan Singh Hehe not really lol. I'm only learning physics. I don't do physics as structured and as much as Lil Doug, but I do it in my own time.

Krishna Karthik - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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@Krishna Karthik As you are elder, Pls help me in managing time

SRIJAN Singh - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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@Srijan Singh Managing time? Wdym?

Krishna Karthik - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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@Krishna Karthik Means that I have lot to do and I can't manage time

SRIJAN Singh - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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@Srijan Singh Ah ok. As in schoolwork? Let me suggest something: work on physics and computer science in your holidays . Work on schoolwork in your school term.

Krishna Karthik - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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@Krishna Karthik My school and online classes are always going on ,there are no holidays . I usually prepare for my school terms exam when they are coming

SRIJAN Singh - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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@Srijan Singh Well, good. I can't really help you as I don't know much about the Indian system of education and how pressuring it is.

Krishna Karthik - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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@Krishna Karthik Thanks for helping!

SRIJAN Singh - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

@Krishna Karthik .I wish you would like this problem

SRIJAN Singh - 8 months, 2 weeks ago

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@SRIJAN Singh I solved it just now; it's pretty easy.

Krishna Karthik - 8 months, 2 weeks ago

@SRIJAN Singh See my newest solution on the problem you sent to me.

Krishna Karthik - 8 months, 2 weeks ago

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