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Find the sum of all possible solutions of a 2 b 2 a^2-b^2 for the following conditions:

  • a a and b b are positive integers less than 1,000,
  • a 3 b 3 a^3-b^3 is perfect square number,
  • a 3 b 3 3 a b = 1. a^3-b^3-3ab=1.

Example : If possible solutions of ( a , b ) (a,b) are ( 2 , 1 ) (2,1) and ( 3 , 2 ) (3,2) then the sum of all ( a 2 b 2 ) = ( 4 1 ) + ( 9 4 ) = 8 (a^2-b^2)=(4-1)+(9-4)=8 .


The answer is 224.

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1 solution

Vinay Sipani
May 21, 2014

Given: a 3 b 3 3 a b = 1 a^3-b^3-3ab=1

= > ( a b ) 3 + 3 a b ( a b ) = 1 + 3 a b =>(a-b)^3+3ab(a-b)=1+3ab Letting ( a b ) = x (a-b)=x ,we have

x 3 + 3 a b x = 1 + 3 a b x^3+3abx=1+3ab = > ( x 1 ) ( x 2 + x + 1 ) + 3 a b ( x 1 ) = 1 =>(x-1)(x^2+x+1)+3ab(x-1)=1 = > ( x 1 ) ( x 2 + x + 1 + 3 a b ) = 0 =>(x-1)(x^2+x+1+3ab)=0 Thus,either x 1 = 0 x-1=0 or x 2 + x + 1 + 3 a b = 0 x^2+x+1+3ab=0

Consider x 2 + x + 1 + 3 a b x^2+x+1+3ab , From the conditions,a and b are positive integers.

= > x 2 > x ; 3 a b > 0 =>x^2>x;3ab>0

= > x 2 + x + 1 + 3 a b 0 =>x^2+x+1+3ab \neq 0

Therefore,x=(a-b)=1

Hence, ( a 3 b 3 ) = a 2 + b 2 + a b (a^3-b^3)=a^2+b^2+ab = ( b + 1 ) 2 + b 2 + ( b + 1 ) b =(b+1)^2+b^2+(b+1)b = 3 b 2 + 3 b + 1 =3b^2+3b+1

Let 3 b 2 + 3 b + 1 = x 2 3b^2+3b+1=x^2 = > 3 b 2 + 3 b + ( 1 x 2 ) = 0 =>3b^2+3b+(1-x^2)=0

Discriminant must be a perfect square. = > 3 2 4 × 3 × ( 1 x 2 ) = y 2 => 3^2-4×3×(1-x^2)=y^2 = > y 2 12 x 2 + 3 = 0 =>y^2-12x^2+3=0

This is the Pell's equation which gives the solutions (x,y)=(13,45) and (181,627) less than 1000.

=>Possible values are ( a , b ) = ( 8 , 7 ) a n d ( 105 , 104 ) (a,b)=(8,7) and (105,104) = > Sum of all a 2 b 2 = ( 8 + 7 ) + ( 105 + 104 ) = 224 =>\text{Sum of all }a^2-b^2 = (8+7)+(105+104)=224

It is not clear that a b = 1 a-b=1 . Letting a b = x a -b = x , we have x 3 + 3 a b x = 1 + 3 a b x^3 + 3abx = 1 + 3ab , which gives us 0 = x 3 1 + 3 a b x 3 a b = ( x 1 ) ( x 2 + x + 1 + 3 a b ) 0 = x^3 - 1 + 3abx - 3ab = (x-1)( x^2 +x + 1 + 3ab ) . In order to conclude that x 1 = 0 x-1 = 0 , you will need to show that x 2 + x + 1 + 3 a b 0 x^2 + x + 1 + 3ab \neq 0 . However, this could happen when a = 1 , b = 1 a = -1, b = 1 .

Also, how did you conclude that the only way for 3 b 2 + 3 b + 1 3b^2 + 3b + 1 to be a perfect square is for b = 7 , 104 b = 7, 104 ?

Calvin Lin Staff - 7 years ago

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As per the conditions,a and b are positive integers .

Hence in the expression x 2 + 1 + x + 3 a b x^2+1+x+3ab , x 2 + 3 a b + 1 > x x^2+3ab+1>x => x 2 + 1 + x + 3 a b > 0 x^2+1+x+3ab>0

So,a-b=1

Vinay Sipani - 7 years ago

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Yes, that's the way to explain why "it is clear that a b = 1 a - b = 1 ". Can you include this into your solution?

I see that you added the condition "less than 1000". As mentioned, you are solving the Pell's equation ( 2 c ) 2 3 ( 2 b + 1 ) 2 = 1 (2c)^2 - 3(2b+1)^2 = 1 . The Pell's equation X 2 3 Y 2 = 1 X^2 - 3 Y^2 = 1 has initial solution ( 2 , 1 ) (2, 1) ), which generates ( 2 , 1 ) , ( 7 , 4 ) , ( 26 , 15 ) , ( 97 , 56 ) , ( 362 , 209 ) , ( 1351 , 780 ) , ( 5042 , 2911 ) (2,1), (7, 4), (26, 15), (97, 56), (362, 209), (1351, 780), (5042, 2911) \ldots . Hence, this corresponds to 2 b + 1 = 1 , 15 , 209 2b+1 = 1, 15, 209 , in which case we have b = 7 , 104 b = 7, 104 as the only solutions under 1000.

The Pell's equation also gives us infinitely many solutions. The next one would be b = 1455 b = 1455 , and they grow exponentially.

Calvin Lin Staff - 7 years ago

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@Calvin Lin I am not able to edit the solution and it seems only one solution can be added by one person.How can I make the changes ???

Thank you for the solution regarding "Pell's equation" .I need to study the Pell's equation .

Vinay Sipani - 7 years ago

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@Vinay Sipani You can edit your solution (and comments), by clicking on the pencil icon that is to the top right corner, next to the "posted time".

Calvin Lin Staff - 7 years ago

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@Calvin Lin oops...

Thank you

Vinay Sipani - 7 years ago

Sorry...I am not sure whether there exist solutions other than 7 and 104.

I have made the changes in the problem...

Thank You.

Vinay Sipani - 7 years ago

@Calvin Lin Does there exist more than 2 solutions...Please give a solution to this which is related to this problem LINK TO NOTE

Vinay Sipani - 7 years ago

Sir, I am not able to raise objection. I see no way to do it since there is no record button. (1, 0) is also a solution according to me. 0 is a positive integer!!!!!

Niranjan Khanderia - 6 years, 11 months ago

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I don't think 0 is a positive integer. So far what I have seen is if 0 is included they write "Non-negative" integers.

SHIV GUPTA - 6 years, 7 months ago

a, b >0 they are both positive integers

Jaglul Hasan Joy - 6 years, 8 months ago

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