If x and x 3 + 2 x 2 + 2 x + 4 are both perfect squares , find the sum of all possible values of x .
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@Peter van der Linden This is how I solved it.
Jup... You got me convinced ;) Always nice to take another view on things.
Thanks for the solution!
I used analysis of the function by taking the first and second en order deravative to find that x = 3 − 2 is a point of inflection. From there on I looked at the first square 1. This yields a perfect square as outcome. Looking at the first deravative tells us that the slope is getting great enough to ensure there is no next perfect square.
BTW I have been thinking: I disregarded 0 because it didn't contribute to the final answer.
I think you are lucky, as 0 is the second answer which satisfies the conditions. But anyways, good job finding half of the answer!
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Yeah well my work was more than I posted, sorry for that. Posted in a hurry ;)
I'm not quite sure how your solution explains why there are no other perfect squares of the form a 6 + 2 a 4 + 2 a 2 + 4 .
Since we only care about the function at integer points, looking at the first and second derivative is going to be irrelevant (typically).
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Hmmm I am trying to convince myself now too, but might be I did get lucky...
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Oops hit post to early... I hoped @steven Jim would have posted his solution by now, but unfortunately he hasn't.
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@Peter van der Linden – I'm so stuck at the moment anyways ;) You can check Calvin's solution btw. That's a good one.
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Let x = a 2 where a ≥ 0 .
We want a 6 + 2 a 4 + 2 a 2 + 4 to be a perfect square. Since this is polynomial of even degree, it suggests that we should attempt to bound it by perfect square polynomials. Notice that a 6 + 2 a 4 + 2 a 2 + 4 is close to ( a 3 + a + 1 ) 2 = a 6 + 2 a 4 + a 2 + 2 a + 1 . Let's find the range that
( a 3 + a ) 2 < a 6 + 2 a 4 + 2 a 2 + 4 < ( a 3 + a + 1 ) 2 .
Expanding and simplifying (some work required), we see that this is satisfied when a > 1 . Thus, when a > 1 , a 6 + 2 a 4 + 2 a 2 + 4 is bounded between two consecutive perfect squares, hence it cannot be a perfect square.
It then remains to check what happens when a = 0 , 1 .
a = 0 , x = 0 , x 3 + 2 x 2 + 2 x + 4 = 4 is a perfect square.
a = 1 , x = 1 , x 3 + 2 x 2 + 2 x + 4 = 9 is a perfect square.
Hence, the sum of solutions is 0 + 1 = 1 .