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Algebra Level 2

For positive real values of a a and b b ,

a b = a + b a = ? \large \dfrac{a}{b} = \dfrac{a+b}{a} = {\color{#D61F06} \mathbf{?}}

Please provide your answer to three decimal places.

Assume a > b > 0 a>b>0 .

If you think it can't be determined, please provide 99999 as your answer.


The answer is 1.618.

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Let x = a b > 1 x = \dfrac{a}{b} \gt 1 . Then the given equation is x = 1 + 1 x x 2 x 1 = 0 x = 1 + 5 2 1.618 x = 1 + \dfrac{1}{x} \Longrightarrow x^{2} - x - 1 = 0 \Longrightarrow x = \dfrac{1 + \sqrt{5}}{2} \approx \boxed{1.618} .

Elegant! :0)

Geoff Pilling - 4 years ago
Tom Engelsman
May 18, 2017

Let's solve for a in terms of b:

a b = a + b a a 2 = a b + b 2 a = b ± b 2 4 ( 1 ) ( b 2 ) 2 = b 1 ± 5 2 . \frac{a}{b} = \frac{a+b}{a} \Rightarrow a^2 = ab + b^2 \Rightarrow a = \frac{b \pm \sqrt{b^2 - 4(1)(-b^2)}}{2} = b \cdot \frac{1 \pm \sqrt{5}}{2}.

Since a > b > 0 a > b > 0 , then we only admit the positive root a = b 1 + 5 2 . a = b \cdot \frac{1+\sqrt{5}}{2}. Hence, a b = 1 + 5 2 \frac{a}{b} = \boxed{\frac{1+\sqrt{5}}{2}} , or the Golden Ratio.

Well done... You beat me to writing up the derivation! :0)

Geoff Pilling - 4 years ago

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No prob, Geoff!

tom engelsman - 4 years ago
Geoff Pilling
May 18, 2017

This quantity is known as the "golden ratio" and it appears throughout mathematics.

Like π \pi and e e , the digits go on and on, to infinity:

a b = a + b a = 1.6180339887498948420 \dfrac{a}{b} = \dfrac{a+b}{a} = 1.6180339887498948420 …

Rounded to three decimal places gives 1.618 \boxed{1.618}

Why must it be the golden ratio?

Pi Han Goh - 4 years ago

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As far as I can remember, this is the definition of the golden ratio, no?

Geoff Pilling - 4 years ago

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That's like saying "pi/4 = 1 - 1/3 + 1/5 - 1/7 + ... " because that's one of the definitions of pi, no?

Pi Han Goh - 4 years ago

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@Pi Han Goh I was going by Brilliant's definition

Geoff Pilling - 4 years ago

@Pi Han Goh For pi, I would refer to Brilliant's definition

Or Brilliant's other definition ;-)

Geoff Pilling - 4 years ago

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@Geoff Pilling The other definition is perfect. Thanks!

Pi Han Goh - 4 years ago

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