T-Junction Oscillation

Three light rods, each with a length of L L , are rigidly connected to form a T-shape frame. Three identical particle-like balls are fixed at the free ends of the rods. The frame is pivoted at the T-junction and can rotate without friction vertically.

If the angular frequency of oscillation of the frame is given by

ω 2 = g α L \omega^2 = \frac g{\alpha L}

find α \alpha .

Bonus: Show how we can compute the time period when the initial angle θ \theta is no longer small.

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The answer is 3.

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2 solutions

Steven Chase
Sep 25, 2020

The combined gravitational potential energy of the two side masses is constant. It can therefore be neglected.

Kinetic energy, potential energy, and Lagrangian:

T = 3 2 m L 2 θ ˙ 2 V = m g L cos θ L = T V = 3 2 m L 2 θ ˙ 2 + m g L cos θ T = \frac{3}{2} m L^2 \dot{\theta}^2 \\ V = - m g L \cos \theta \\ \mathcal{L} = T - V = \frac{3}{2} m L^2 \dot{\theta}^2 + m g L \cos \theta

Equation of motion:

d d t L θ ˙ = L θ \frac{d}{dt} \frac{\partial{\mathcal{L}}}{\partial{\dot{\theta}}} = \frac{\partial{\mathcal{L}}}{\partial{\theta}}

This results in:

3 m L 2 θ ¨ = m g L sin θ 3 L θ ¨ = g sin θ 3 m L^2 \ddot{\theta} = - mg L \sin \theta \\ 3 L \ddot{\theta} = - g \sin \theta

For small angles:

3 L θ ¨ = g θ θ ¨ = g 3 L θ 3 L \ddot{\theta} = - g \theta \\ \ddot{\theta} = - \frac{g}{3 L} \theta

This corresponds to simple harmonic motion with the following angular frequency:

ω 2 = g 3 L \omega^2 = \frac{g}{3 L}

To compute the time period for large oscillations, probably the easiest thing to do is just run a numerical simulation using the following equation for the double-dot term.

3 L θ ¨ = g sin θ 3 L \ddot{\theta} = - g \sin \theta

Another way is to use conservation of energy:

V ( θ ) V ( θ 0 ) = 3 2 m L 2 θ ˙ 2 = 3 2 m L 2 ( d θ d t ) 2 |V(\theta) - V(\theta_0)| = \frac{3}{2} m L^2 \dot{\theta}^2 = \frac{3}{2} m L^2 \Big( \frac{d \theta}{dt} \Big)^2

Re-arrange to obtain an expression for d t dt in terms of θ \theta and d θ d \theta , and integrate this expression to derive the time period.

@Steven Chase @Karan Chatrath Can we solve using Newton laws.?

Talulah Riley - 8 months, 2 weeks ago

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Yes, using the rotational form of the 2nd Law. τ = I θ ¨ \tau = I \ddot{\theta}

Steven Chase - 8 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Steven Chase can you post that solution, my SHM is bit weak.

Talulah Riley - 8 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Talulah Riley m g L cos θ m g L cos θ m g L sin θ = 3 m L 2 θ ¨ m g L sin θ = 3 m L 2 θ ¨ g sin θ = 3 L θ ¨ m g L \cos \theta - m g L \cos \theta - m g L \sin \theta = 3 m L^2 \ddot{\theta} \\ - m g L \sin \theta = 3 m L^2 \ddot{\theta} \\ - g \sin \theta = 3 L \ddot{\theta}

Steven Chase - 8 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Steven Chase @Steven Chase Thank you so much. Have a look on new problem and check last 3 hour notifications whenever you will be free. :) :)

Talulah Riley - 8 months, 2 weeks ago

@Steven Chase Thanks for the solution. Upvoted.

Talulah Riley - 8 months, 2 weeks ago
Chew-Seong Cheong
Oct 19, 2020

For small initial angle θ \theta of a compound pendulum , we can find the period of the pendulum by first finding the equivalent length of pendulum given by:

L e q = I m R L_{eq} = \frac I{mR}

where I I and m m are the moment of inertia and m m of the pendulum respectively, and R R is the distance between the pivot point and the center of mass. Then the angular frequency is given by:

ω 2 = g L e q \omega^2 = \frac g{L_{eq}}

For this problem, let the mass of each of the three balls be m m . Then the moment of initial of the pendulum is I = 3 m L 2 I = 3mL^2 .

Using the pivot point be the origin and the coordinates of center of mass be C ( x c , y c ) C(x_c, y_c) , where y y increases vertically down. Then x c = m L m L + 0 3 m = 0 x_c = \dfrac {mL-mL+0}{3m} = 0 and y c = 0 + 0 + m L 3 m = L 3 y_c = \dfrac {0+0+mL}{3m} = \dfrac L3 . Therefore R = L 3 R = \dfrac L3 .

Then L e q = 3 m L 2 3 m L 3 = 3 L L_{eq} = \dfrac {3mL^2}{3m\cdot \frac L3} = 3L and ω 2 = g 3 L α = 3 \omega^2 = \dfrac g{3L} \implies \alpha = \boxed 3 .

Efficient approach. Thanks for the solution

Karan Chatrath - 7 months, 3 weeks ago

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Glad that you like it. I think members should learn this approach for simple problem. You should mention what L L is in your problem. Anyway, I will edit it for you with a few picture. I am a moderator.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 7 months, 3 weeks ago

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Oh, nice catch. I indeed did not specify the length. Thanks again for your feedback. I'm realising that my problem statements have scope for refinement.

Karan Chatrath - 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Thanks for the edits to the statement.

Karan Chatrath - 7 months, 3 weeks ago

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