Technothlon 2014 Question 9

Logic Level 4

Let Technometics be an arithmetic in which there are just 5 5 digits (0,1,2,3,4), which are as follows-

0 0 may represent 0 0 or 5 5 ,
1 1 may represent 1 1 or 6 6 ,
2 2 may represent 2 2 or 7 7 ,
3 3 may represent 3 3 or 8 8 ,
4 4 may represent 4 4 or 9 9 .

For example- If 1430 1430 is a number in Tehnometics, it can denote 16 16 different numbers in normal number system, some of which are 6480 6480 , 1935 1935 , 1485 1485 , etc. But a number in normal number system can have only one Technometical representation.

In a book of Technometics, Aniket finds a question which says,

"Given that 104 1 2 = 2324131 1041^2=2324131 , and 222 1 2 = 2201121 2221^2=2201121 , find the Technometric value of B A B-A , where A A and B B are the normal representations of 1041 and 2221 respectively."

What is the answer?


The answer is 1230.

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3 solutions

Aditya Raut
Aug 8, 2014

See that both the numbers 1041 and 2221 have 16 16 choices each to be a number in decimal representation, as each of its digits is corresponding to 2 digits in decimal.

But, if the first number starts with 6 6 , then it's square becomes 8-digit, so that is not valid (we want square to be 7 digit number), so it starts with 1 1 .

Similarly for the second number, it can't start with 7 7 , so it starts with 2 2 .


So we got 8 8 numbers to check for 1st number and 8 8 for the second.


The maximum number such that second digit of first number is 0 is 1096 1096 , and it's square is 1201216 1201216 which is not having a 2 2 at start in technometric representation, so the ones smaller than it will also not have.


Thus we have to check only 4 cases for the first number, namely starting with 15 15

number square technometry. .represent 1541 2374681 2324131 ( t r u e ) 1546 2390116 2340111 1591 2531281 2031231 1596 2547216 2042211 \begin{array}{|c|c||c|} \textbf{number} & \textbf{square} & \textbf{technometry. .represent} \\ \hline 1541&2374681&2324131 (true)\\ 1546&2390116&2340111\\ 1591&2531281&2031231\\ 1596&2547216&2042211\\ \end{array}


For the second number, there are 8 8 choices similar way, namely

number square technometry. .represent 2221 4932841 ( n o t s t a r t w i t h 2 ) 2226 4955076 ( n o t s t a r t w i t h 2 ) 2271 5157441 ( n o t s t a r t w i t h 2 ) 2276 5180176 ( n o t s t a r t w i t h 2 ) 2721 7403841 24 ( n o u s e ) 2726 7431076 24 ( n o u s e ) 2771 7678441 21 ( n o u s e ) 2776 m u s t b e t h e n e e d e d 2201121 \begin{array}{|c|c||c|} \textbf{number} & \textbf{square} & \textbf{technometry. .represent} \\ \hline 2221&4932841&(not- start-with -2)\\ 2226&4955076&(not- start-with -2)\\ 2271&5157441&(not- start-with -2)\\ 2276&5180176&(not- start-with -2)\\ 2721&7403841&24*****(no-use)\\ 2726&7431076&24*****(no-use)\\ 2771&7678441&21*****(no-use)\\ 2776&must-be-the-needed&2201121\\ \end{array}



Thus A = 1541 A=1541 and B = 2776 B=2776 in decimal, giving B A = 1235 B-A = 1235

And in Technometry, it will be 1230 \boxed{1230}

EXACTLY same solution!!! Only, in the case of the second number i started squaring from the largest possible number (2776) as the square of 2... was going to be larger than the square of 1541, thus giving a '7' at the beginning of the square of 2... So i started from largest, thus getting both numbers in the first trials ! And, while solving, i was thinking this was going to be amazing latex practice, but you already did it ;)

Aakarshit Uppal - 6 years, 4 months ago

@Satvik Golechha can you think how much of LaTeX i needed to type those Arrays !!! OMG ! This solution was a cool practice of my LaTeX skills....

Aditya Raut - 6 years, 10 months ago

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@Aditya Raut That was LaTeX?! I thought that was an image. Awesome work!! Hats off to you. :D

Satvik Golechha - 6 years, 10 months ago

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If you want, i can give you the code, and i am sure you will be able to understand all of the formatting that gives out an array, just see the code and you will get how the array code works


Here's the general code, edit the values you want , and you will get the array...

\begin{array}{|c|c||c|} a & b & S \

\hline

0&0&1\

0&1&1\

1&0&1\

1&1&0\

\end{array}

The |c|c||c| are actually the heading names of the columns, and the numbers 0&0&1 represent the numbers you want in the columns. Number of lines can be increased as ever you want, and even more, the partition between the columns can also be changed, like using || between two numbers will make you array as

a b S 0 0 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 0 \begin{array}{|c|c||c|} a & b & S \\ \hline 0&0&1\\ 0&1&1\\ 1&0&1\\ 1&1&0\\ \end{array}

Where as if you start was |c|c|c| , then it will appear as a b S 0 0 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 0 \begin{array}{|c|c|c|} a & b & S \\ \hline 0&0&1\\ 0&1&1\\ 1&0&1\\ 1&1&0\\ \end{array}

@Satvik Golechha

Aditya Raut - 6 years, 10 months ago

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@Aditya Raut @Aditya Raut Thanks 'gain an' gain' @_@

Satvik Golechha - 6 years, 10 months ago

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@Satvik Golechha @Satvik Golechha , I don't think it was in my paper.

Ameya Salankar - 6 years, 10 months ago

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@Ameya Salankar @Ameya Salankar That was because you gave the Hauts (class 11 and 12) paper. This question was in Juniors (class 9 and 10).

Satvik Golechha - 6 years, 10 months ago

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@Satvik Golechha @Satvik Golechha , I had figured it out eventually.

Ameya Salankar - 6 years, 10 months ago

Good solution, almost the same than me

Isaac Arce Aguilar - 6 years, 5 months ago

Technometics number is always less than or equal to 10 base normal number. A l s o n o t e t h a t a ( X D i g i t n u m b e r ) 2 = 2 X D i g i t o r ( 2 x 1 ) D i g i t s n u m b e r . I t w i l l h a v e ( 2 x 1 ) D i g i t s i f t h e h i g h e s t d i g i t i s l e s s t h a n 3.2. Also~ note~ that~ a~( X_{Digit}~ number )^2 = 2X_{Digit}~ or ~(2x-1)_{Digits}~number.\\ It~ will~ have (2x-1)_{Digits}~ if~ the~ highest~ digit~ is~ less~ than~~ 3.2. \\~\\ L e t t h e l o c a t i o n s b e r e p r e s e n t e d b y ( D C B A ) 2 = h g f e d c b a \displaystyle Let~ the~ locations~ be~ represented~ by~~~~~~~~(DCBA)^2 = hgfedcba \color\red {1041} h = 0 S o D = 1... > ( 4 D i g i t ) 2 = 7 D i g i t 2 , 32 , 41 , 31 = 1524.. > B = 5 n o t 0. B u t h e r e B = 2 , w i t h f = 2 ; s o t o m a k e B = 5 c h a n g e f f r o m 2 t o 7. 2 , 37 , 41 , 31 = 1540 B = 4 a n d A = 1. 1541 h=0~~So~~D=1...>~~~~~~~\because(4_{ Digit})^2 =7_ {Digit} \\ \sqrt{2,32,41,31}= 1524..>~~~~\therefore B=5~not~0.\\But~~ here~~ B=2,~with f=2;~so ~to~make~B=5~ change~ f~~from~2~to~7. \\ \sqrt{2,37,41,31} =1540\therefore~ B=4 ~and~ A=1.\\ \boxed{1541} \color\red {2221} h = 0 S o D = 2... > ( 4 D i g i t ) 2 = 7 D i g i t 2 , 20 , 11 , 21 = 1483.. > B u t h e r e D = 1 s o t o m a k e D = 2 c h a n g e g f r o m 2 t o 7.. 7 , 20 , 11 , 21 = 2683.. C = 7.... t o m a k e t h i s p o s s i b l e f c h a n g e s f r o m 2 t o 7. 7 , 70 , 11 , 21 = 2775.. B = 7 a n d A c a n n o t b e 5 , A = 6. 2776 B A = 173 5 10 = 123 0 t e c h S o r r y m y e x p l a n a t i o n r e q u i r e s i m p r o v e m e n t . \displaystyle h=0~~So~~D=2...>~~~~~~\because (4_{ Digit})^2 =7_ {Digit} \\ \sqrt{2,20,11,21}= 1483..>\\But~here~D=1~so ~to~make~D=2~ change~ g~~from~2~to~7. .\\\sqrt{7,20,11,21}= 2683..~~~\\\therefore~ C=7....to~ make~ this~ possible~ f~ changes~ from ~~ 2~to~7. \\ \sqrt{7,70,11,21}= 2775..\\B=7~ and~A~can~not~be~5, ~ A=6.\\\boxed{2776}\\ \\B-A=1735_{10} =1230_{tech}\\~~ \\~~~Sorry ~my~ explanation~ requires~ improvement.

Given the Technometic representations of 1041^2 = 2324131 and 2221^2 = 2201121:

There are many Technometic representations of 1041 and 2221:

1041 = 1041, 1591, 1541, 1596, 1546, 1091, 1041, 1096, 1046,... and any permissible arrangements according to the rule...

2221 = 2226, 2276, 2271, 2721, 2771, 2726, 2776, and any permissible arrangements according to the rule...

To find the only normal representation of 1041 and 2221 given their squares, we check first their highest digits and their remaining digits.

Firstly for 2221, if the normal representation has 7 as its highest digit, then it would exceed the number of digits required since (2abc)^2 < 10000000 < (7def)^2. (a,b,c,d,e, and f are digits)

So 2 is the highest digit (for the left-side) but (for the right-side) the highest digit is 2 in which no four-digit square (with 2 or 7 as the highest digit) satisfies this since 2000000 << (2abc)^2. Hence we have the digit 7 for the right-side.

From the strict inequality (2300)^2 < 7000000 < (2800)^2, we can conclude that 7 is the hundreds digit for the left-side (Thus, we have so far, 27bc and for the right-side, 7defghi).

Can you do bashing? It won't be so hard to bash the remaining 4 normal numbers 2721, 2726, 2771, 2776; squaring them, and finding the Technometric number. in which only 2776 satisfies the given Technometic equation.

Using the same techniques for 1041, we can bash for the remaining 4 normal numbers: 1541, 1546, 1591, 1596. Giving 1541 as the suitable normal number satisfying the Technometric equation.

Hence, A - B = 1235 = 1230 (in Technometic).

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